I'd like to say thank you so much to everyone who has given me their time, feedback, insight, and ideas which helped me, together with you all, develop Kibby further into his wonderful finalized version. Especially thank you to @FixedFun who's original design and idea kickstarted this entire process. This was super fun, and I am really happy with how he turned out, and I hope you all are too.
♡⟡˙⋆ Download the mascot files here ⋆˙⟡♡
I provided svg and png both with and without gradient, a clean the Adobe Illustrator file, and all of the current Kibby variants!
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agreed, it was incredibly fun creating something together with everyone! the sense of community i felt during this process was very heart-warming. i am glad to call kbin my new home to share with all you kind and wonderful people ( ´▽)o自自o(´▽ )
I've been quietly following the progression on this and think you've done a great job. I was also really impressed by the spirit of collaboration that underpinned all your posts and your solicitation of feedback. Really positive process all round!
What are the terms of use of this mascot? Can one include it in a Kbin mobile app, for example? If you plan to allow its redistribution, you might consider deciding on a proper license for it, e.g. one of Creative Commons.
didnt even think of that, and wouldnt have if you didnt say this lol. ive never done that before, it seems pretty simple, but i don't really know if the license i might choose makes sense. do you think this one is reasonable for what it is? ultimately id like anyone to be able to do anything (adapt, build upon, change, be creative) with it except use it solely for monetary gain. as for someone like ernest or an app dev, if he or the other devs were to recognize Kibby as a mascot, I'd like them specifically to be able to do pretty much whatever they'd want with it (include in mobile app and so on)
The Kbin code is AGPL, so that will likely become the license for the actual art assets if it's put in place officially. The current folder logo is already in the repo and under AGPL. If I were Ernest and wanted this to be part of the project I would ask you to submit it as a PR to Codeberg (and sign any necessary CLAs) so that the assets are properly placed into the repository under its license.
For now you can use CC-BY-NC-SA like you suggested which would allow for profile pics, magazine sidebar images, fan art, and the like. Since this is a SA license the users and mods need to have their modified images released under the same license as well. For a PFP attribution and indication of the license would be difficult and most people probably won't care. Also note that the CC license is irrevocable and people are allowed to use the assets freely outside of Kbin as long as the terms are followed.
As a 3PA dev or a Kbin instance owner I would not touch anything with NC as there is some ambiguity in the NC clause which might be trouble for an instance which say is not for-profit but accepts donations. In addition if the app was open-source they would need to separately license the artwork to maintain compliance with CC-BY-NC-SA.
In the future though Ernest might want to trademark the mascot along with the name Kbin so that it will be used exclusively to represent the project. This would probably require a formal release from you (AGPL won't cut it here) basically giving them the rights to to do whatever they want with it.
Yeah this stuff is messy :) but it's good to know about it and get the conversation started now. I'm actually about to get this account deleted but thought it was worth mentioning this as I've been following the Kbin mascot ideas from the start.
I think it would not just restrict simply selling the image or its derivative works, but also prohibit using it as part of paid product (e.g. paid app). Probably ad-supported websites or apps too, but it's unclear. I'm not lawyer though so it could be wrong.
Personally I have to problem with that but it may deter others so you will need to decide according to your convictions.
I really like this. Even if it's not adopted by @ernest to be officially incorporated into Kbin, mods could create little variants to use as the thumbnail for magazines. Really hoping it catches on.
i didnt even check if it worked on mobile, good that it does haha. i also didnt add other instances to the match which i should do. but yea lol, enjoy! ❤︎
I just thought of a small improvement that you might want to take into consideration. It's really not a necessity, just a small QoL improvement.
I noticed on a profile page that it selects a random icon for each placeholder. This means it will use different variants of Kibby for each comment, even when multiple of those comments are from the same user. I thought it would be less confusing if it assigns a random Kibby variant to a user upon loading the page, so it is consistent when reading a thread. It doesn't matter if it changes the assigned variant to a different variant when you go to a different page, but having the consistency in a longer comment thread could be helpful.
sorry for not being clear. he is an unofficial mascot, not recognized by ernest, but by the community, or at least as many people who have voted and participated in his development.
I love the avatar replacement script sooo much, but I just wish the icon was consistent between posts from the same person; whether that's from using the username as a randomizer seed to make it consistent between pages, or just pushing username and generated-icon associations into an object on a per-page basis. As it is, it dramatically decreases accessibility for me, which makes me sad because the parrot brings me joy.
Of course I just wrote all this and realized someone said this exact thing on page two. I suppose I'll post it anyway just to say, yeah, I'm a user being directly impacted by it; if you can't figure it out by the time that I'm not deliriously ill then I might take a crack at it myself