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FFS. Jill Stein?!?!
Nobody under the age of 40 has even heard your name. You stand for nothing, and have zero experience at this level of political governance. Just go fuck off.
Also, anyone reading this who still votes for her is a vote for Trump or RFKjr, which is a negative. She has no chance. Never did.
She's also a Russian-planted spoiler running in order to divert would-be Democratic votes into a black hole where they would otherwise help stave off Trump's fascist rise to power.
Any legit news articles that have proof that she has been "planted" by Russia?
Russia being overjoyed about a candidate or laughing as we don't know who to vote for, doesn't mean she's a russian plant.
Conspiracy subs are that way ------>
You do not seem to be arguing in good faith. The link that user provided included further links to "legit" news sources like this one from NBC. Unless you are claiming that NBC is not a legitimate news source. Here's a quote from it that seems pertinent.
A new report commissioned by members of the U.S. Senate intelligence committee expands upon another facet of Russia’s pro-Trump operation: an effort to divert votes away from Hillary Clinton and toward Green Party candidate Jill Stein.
An analysis from NBC News found an extensive, coordinated effort by Russian operatives to boost Stein’s candidacy by targeting voters from key Democratic demographics.
One example NBC News highlighted was an Instagram account called @woke_blacks, which shared pro-Stein images in the run-up to the election and dismissed valid criticism that votes for Stein would help Donald Trump’s candidacy in crucial swing states.
None of this proves Stein is a "Russian-planted spoiler", which is what was alleged and what OP asked for evidence of. All this suggests is that the Russians tried to divert left leaning voters away from Clinton by boosting Stein's candidacy. There is zero evidence there that Stein was contacted by Russia or even aware of the way in which her campaign was being hijacked.
Thank you for restoring my faith in this community. I had no idea that me posting a news article about the Green Party would make a "politics" sub so irrationally angry. lol
And thank you for explaining about the Russian diversion campaign so much better than I did. If you don't mind, I will use your wording from now on. Much more clear and succinct than my attempts to say the same thing.
Guess I'll keep doing posting about the Green Party tho. Because this is a "politics" sub and not just a "If you aren't a Democrat, don't post here" sub. :)
It's all good. As a fellow Green voter from Australia, I always feel sorry for those of you stuck in countries where you can't simultaneously vote for your Green party and vote against the major right wing party or coalition. You are endlessly subjected to the most deranged attacks from people who just dogmatically repeat the same moronic, doomsday cult talking points like they're an AI model that was trained exclusively on campaign propaganda.
Thank you!! Not only do they attack me in this Lemmy community, they actually follow me to other communities (that have nothing to do with politics) and try to downvote me there. All because I am not voting for their candidate. It's crazy! lol
And it hasn't changed my mind at all. Voting Green! Thanks for your support!
He does not realize that things he posts, many of which are religious, all show up in people's "all" feeds. With how small Lemmy is, the all feed is very, very commonly used.
Keep doing your thing. People are so stupid on the internet and will read one thing and immediately post misinformation saying another thing. I wouldn't say "Russian diversion campaign" since Jill Stein is running in good faith and you don't want people to think her whole campaign is one.
Thank you!
You saying that I don't "seem to be arguing in good faith" implies that I am lying or being deceitful. Not true.
Nothing in that link shows that she is paid by Russia to spoil the election, or is a russian stooge.
Russia taking advantage of America's disconten in voting and trying to throw the election, doesn't mean that Jill Stein was in on it.
That's like me spending money to a hacker, and saying that "user Boddhisatva of Lemmy" is a better CEO of a company than Elon Musk.
And then say I start tweeting that. Then I start advocating that. I start saying ""user Boddhisatva of Lemmy" every where.
Does that mean you are my stooge?
Just because Russia is an asshole, doesn't mean that Jill Stein is corrupt. Even if you don't like her.
Nice. But any proof that she has been "planted" or paid or conspired by/with Russia? Just because Russia used her name to spread discontent, doesn't mean that she had anything to do with that.
They would have picked any third party candidate that had the following she does.
That's Russia's doing, not Jill Steins.
Also, if she is so terrible, and Harris and Trump are so awesome, then they could totally decimate her in a campaign.
So why so afraid of her? I mean, there are so many people saying she has "no chance." Cool! Then easy debate. Right?
Lmao okay. Just Jill Stein in December 2015 casually dining with Vladimir Putin, Michael Flynn who worked under the Trump Administration and is now a convicted felon for lying to the FBI about his relationship with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak, and several high-ranking members of Putin's cabinet.
After this, I'm refusing to dignify your sealioning in this thread, because it's abundantly clear you don't actually care about either the facts or about course correcting the US' descent into fascism.
Ok, but any proof that she has been "planted" or paid or conspired by/with Russia? Just because Russia used her name to spread discontent, doesn't mean that she had anything to do with that.
They would have picked any third party candidate that had the following she does.
That's Russia's doing, not Jill Steins.
Also, if she is so terrible, and Harris and Trump are so awesome, then they could totally decimate her in a campaign.
So why so afraid of her? I mean, there are so many people saying she has "no chance." Cool! Then easy debate. Right?
Literally just copy–pasting the sealioning at this point. 💀
Because you are refusing to answer the question. Any proof she was/is a russian plant, on a russian payroll?
And if you have proof, have you given it to the major news organizations.
Or better yet, let's have open debates, then the Democrat/Republican parties can decimate her with all of this hard proof you have.
I mean, hey, let's finish the Green Party once and for all.
They've bugged you long enough! This is a perfect time to put her in jail for corruption and fraud.
So when are ya gonna make that happen? Maybe send to WikiLeaks? Or the conspiracy sub?
Because you are refusing to answer the question. Any proof she was/is a russian plant, on a russian payroll?
And if you have proof, have you given it to the major news organizations.
Or better yet, let's have open debates, then the Democrat/Republican parties can decimate her with all of this hard proof you have.
I mean, hey, let's finish the Green Party once and for all.
They've bugged you long enough! This is a perfect time to put her in jail for corruption and fraud.
So when are ya gonna make that happen? Maybe send to WikiLeaks? Or the conspiracy sub?
Ohhhh, so now you are "refusing" to dignify me with an answer. Ok, ok.
Well be sure to contact the news media. This will be front page news!
Think about it! The green party would be decimated, and then you wouldn't have to worry about them.
I mean, they are soooo corrupt. As you have said.
Ok, fine, so don't tell me or show me the proof. Please contact the news media. I'd very much like to see an investigative article on this and watch it all crumble down.
…so debates are bad? I’m not voting for her, but how does calling for meaningful debates trigger this response?
Right?
If the democratic nom, and the republican nom are so sure of themselves, so sure that they are the best choice, then why are they afraid to debate a 3rd party?!
I mean, if the 3rd party person sucks so bad and is so terrible, then they could totally prove that in a debate.
So yeah, why does the idea of having a real debate with a larger 3rd party candidate scare the other parties so much?
I'm not Jill Stein, so I am not sure what you mean.
Also, a vote for Stein is not a vote for Trump, it's a vote for Jill Stein.
I'm American and I have every right to vote for who I want to be president. Even if it's not someone you like.
Oh , wow. So you're just an active idiot versus a passive. A willing, as the Russians call it.
Where do you think Jill gets all her money from?
Yes, I am an active "idiot". You and others in this thread inspired me to start a Green Party community right here on Lemmy World just now.
Is that active enough for ya?
See, there wasn't one on here until I created it.
So thanks for the inspiration!! Maybe someone who is undecided will see it and vote Green Party.
All thanks to you! :)
From donations and people like me. Where do YOU think Jill gets her money from?
And do you have proof that she has gotten "all" her money from Russia? Seems like that would be a front page news article if true.
Have you contacted major news organizations with your proof of all this corruption in the Green Party?
You know, you can just not like her. And that's fine. But you don't have to say or imply that she's paid for by Russia. lol
It doesn't have to be a grand conspiracy. You don't like her. Ok, then don't vote for her.
I like her. And I'm voting for her. As is my right.
Speaking of Grand Conspiracies. I've got one. You are full of shit!
Your account is 24 hours old, you demand proof of every response.
Two of the posts you made seem like advertisements for a community college AND you seem to think you're on Reddit in those posts.
"incredibly proud of the place, but I’m disappointed that there’s not much info on reddit about this school, considering how amazing this small school in West Virginia is. So that’s why I created this subreddit"
You are not being genuine, and you should go away.