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On a more serious note, why can't you just let them be? This almost reaches the level of @[email protected] posts against Lemmy.ml
LMAO don't drag me into this, I do what I do because I consider .ml and the rest of the Tankie Triad to be a threat to the long term growth and survivability of the Lemmy-verse at large
Blahaj doesn't promote dangerous political rhetoric, hold authoritarian regimes to a gold standard or enforce a specific narrative through moderation.
This was, at worst, a bad moderation decision that @[email protected] has every right to vent about
This was, at worst, a bad moderation decision that @[email protected] has every right to vent about
No, apparently, I have no right to vent about it, and no one should talk about it, and maybe if I wasn't performing thoughtcrime on another instance entirely by defending myself against accusations of transphobia, Blahaj wouldn't have been forced to call a trans user a transphobe and a fascist and dogpile them until they left the Fediverse.
Truly, my sins are monumental.
Blahaj wouldn’t have been forced to call a trans user a transphobe and a fascist and dogpile them until they left the Fediverse.
You're making all that fuss over a 22 days old account?
Is that a new way to create drama, concern trolling using a few weeks old alts that post to [email protected] in their first week when usually new joiners take weeks to discover that community?
You’re making all that fuss over a 22 days old account?
Oh, of course, it's okay to bully a trans person into leaving the Fediverse by calling them transphobic and fascist if it's a new account.
Fucking insane.
Is that a new way to create drama, concern trolling using a few weeks old alts that post to [email protected] in their first week when usually new joiners take weeks to discover that community?
Christ, what a piss-weak deflection.
Christ, what a piss-weak deflection.
Their first two comments on [email protected]
Why do you post everwhere 196 comes up trying to funnel people to your instance?
You even post on the 196 wolrd community trying to get people to leave.
Do you hate that community?
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Blaze why do you hate that community so much? You commit so much time to tearing them down.
People will judge if that looks like a genuine new joiner getting bullied, or an alt trying to reframe the whole !196 drama in another light
For the !196 issue context: https://lemmy.ca/post/37558800
People will judge if that looks like a genuine new joiner getting bullied, or an alt
So it's okay to bully a trans person if they're new to the Fediverse, and it's also okay to bully them if they're an established user - so long, of course, as they disagree with Blahaj.
Wonderful.
Situations are different indeed.
I made the comparison because the recommendations of people in both case are similar: ignore those instances you have issues with and move on.
ignore those instances you have issues with and move on.
Maybe for Blahaj and other instances, but it shouldn't be for Tankie Instances.
There absolutely should be a loud and visible opposition to them to externally demonstrate that Lemmy != "The Tankie Place" or Voat 2.0
I've been building
Hoping that people would leave .ml for those communities after the whole post 9 months ago. https://feddit.nl/post/16246531
I still hope people will, but inertia is still something, even on Lemmy. Most of the people don't care. [email protected] and [email protected] are still the main communities on those topics. It's okay. Maybe things will change over time. There's no rush.
In the meantime, it's better to build something rather then spend time spouting on them.
It should be a multi-pronged approach, build alternate comms off the Tankie Triad while also showing opposition for new users to hopefully see that no, this is not a safe haven for tankies
But here's the thing: constantly posting memes about "the tankie triad" paints you in a bad light, the light of the harasser.
People don't care about that. To get them to switch to another community, you have to offer a better community. No amount of meme is going to help with that.
Lol I haven't posted a meme about it for a few weeks now, I've been focusing on documentation lately
Either way though, it requires a multi-pronged approach. Memes alone will not sway, but better comms, public documentation of their behavior AND memes can be incredibly effective
Sounds good. Sorry about that, I thought the last one was much more recent.
What documentation are you focusing on?
A common trend I've noticed in the comments when Tankies come up is a growing group of "I've never noticed anything bad about .ml" people. Since .ml tends to enforce their narrative through mod action it has the effect of being more subtle. Hex/grad IMO have more of tendency to choose "dogpiling" which is a lot more visible to people.
So now whenever I dip into the modlog or I'm bored I'll collect some screenshots of that in action and post them to [email protected] like at https://lemmy.world/post/26047186
Okay!
Why am I being treated as the one who started this, again? "Roll over and don't speak up when you're called a transphobe on dbzer0, or you might hurt the feelings of the Blahaj admins"
It's insane how many people bend over backwards for this shit.
This almost reaches the level of @[email protected] posts against Lemmy.ml
Perhaps you'd like to tell me how many times I've posted about Blahaj, and in what contexts, in the past few months. I'm sure there's a torrent of unprovoked material for you to call on, and you definitely aren't just throwing shit out there because you feel the need to defend Blahaj with the rest of the clique.
Why am I being treated as the one who started this, again?
You posted this meme?
You posted this meme?
Which isn't where this started, and you know that, considering you were a participant on two (or all three?) of the threads involved.
why can’t you just let them be?
“Roll over and don’t speak up when you’re called a transphobe on dbzer0, or you might hurt the feelings of the Blahaj admins”
Insane that any activity the Blahaj admins don't like is a direct attack on them, according to you.
Why do you want bad behavior by Blahaj swept under the rug so badly?
If this was a Tankie place banning liberals, PJ would be so upset about it. If it was a liberal place banning Tankies, they'd be very happy and say they had it coming.