Kagi Introducing Fair Pricing
Kagi Introducing Fair Pricing
Better search results with no ads. Welcome to Kagi (pronounced kah-gee), a paid search engine that gives power back to the user.
In months where you don't utilize any searches on your plan, we will automatically apply a full credit to your account for that month. This credit will be applied to your next billing cycle, effectively covering your subsequent month's subscription at no additional cost.
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We have implemented this for the simple reason of being kind to our users
Eh, ok. This is a good user retention strategy if your product isn't interesting enough to use for most users. Can you imagine any other product offering a free month if you didn't use it for a whole month? Kagi is near death.
edit: downvoters have six-to-eight figure salaries at Kagi
edit 2: Kagi sent out an email to its 15 staff to downvote my comment on its grassroots marketing plot
Downvoted so I can have a six-to-eight figure salary at Kagi!
HIRED. Start using our product please.
Thank you, will do!
The user growth has been bigger than usual in the last months, they have live stats. Not to say they were breaking even at around 25k users, they now have 38k.
Also their product shouldn't be interesting, should be invisible. It's a search engine, not a toy.
If you really want to see malice, I would say it's more of a marketing move because very very few users will not make any search at all in a month. And those users have indeed no cost for them. Giving them credit still means you are getting the money eventually.
Sorry, I use a search engine about 300 times a month at minimum. I'm not what you'd consider a power user right now. I agree it shouldn't be interesting, but it should be used at least. How many figures are you earning?
You said "if your product is not interesting enough for users to use".
The product has to be useful, and the user growth for a obviously premium service I think is a good testimony of that.
Have you considered that they might be a healthy business that doesn't bleed money (like most tech companies) and therefore doesn't need to rely on trapping users in subscriptions hoping they won't use the product?
Also what's with the passive aggressive tone? We are talking about a search engine, chill.
I'm fine. I feel like I'm arguing with a secret Kagi operative here.
I haven't considered that they might be a healthy business but you seem to know a lot more than I do about it....
Please, keep sharing what you don't know about Kagi
I am repeating data points they shared during the community event.
BTW buddy, you can cool it with the passive-aggressiveness. Not everyone on the internet is out to get you.
The info about them breaking even at 25k was shared in the discord channel (which I very rarely look). The rest are stats that are published on their website and as I said shared during the yearly community event.
I work in tech, and I would be blind to not acknowledge that a company which:
- is profitable/breaks even after few years of operation
- does that with 25k users
- doesn't have a marketing budget (used to, now they might have a ridiculously small one).
Might be a healthy business, different from 99% of tech companies that generally bleed money even with millions of users.
You seem completely sure of the opposite, whatever, don't use their service lol
Kind cool to see a profitable company like that. I worked on a place that for years was burning millions of dollars every month in hopes of eventually making it work out 😄
You can cool it with accusing me of being passive-aggressive, I think I've been completely fair to you. You can definitely not call me 'buddy', and you can stop acting like a victim here.
You have to agree that it's strange that you're putting so much energy into something you don't have a monetary interest in. This is very unusual behavior for some random dude on the internet. You must see that. You don't seem stupid, but you definitely seem incentivized.
So let's both acknowledge that you're getting paid to do this and that I'm not.
I also work in tech. I'm not sure why you'd be working so hard for a company that you claim isn't paying you. You're worth more than this homeboy.
So, I'm going to assume that you are working for them. Wouldn't you? So please, again, tell me everything you think you know about Kagi. I'm really curious.
Let me explain it to you:
- first comment with meta-statements about down votes (I didn't downvote, but still shows the tone)
- one comment in: "how many figures you get"
- two comments in: "I feel like I am talking with a secret operative".
Now, you might think everyone is stupid, but it doesn't take that much that all these statements are passive aggressive and they are a way to insinuate your interlocutor is arguing in bad faith or for ulterior motives.
so much energy into something you don't have a monetary interest in
I don't agree. First because it's little effort, if any. I am right now taking a dump and tapping on my phone. Second, by the same logic your commitment would show also financial incentive? So are you paid by Google to smear competitors?
I instead think that we are simply commenting on stuff that we are interested in. I want kagi to succeed, of course, and I do because it's a great product but much more importantly because I want their business model to succeed. I want more and more companies adopting it and stop thinking that fucking over users is the only way to make money. From this perspective, sure, I am invested because I want a healthy tech industry which works for humans and their rights.
Not that I have to justify anything anyway.
BTW, if you start every conversation with the mindset that "everyone who disagrees with me must be paid by whom I am accusing", I hardly think you can consider yourself fair. As I said, using your own logic I need to assume you work for Google or Microsoft and are paid by them to smear competitors.
I just can't believe you put so much energy into defending a profit-generating company WITHOUT COMPENSATION. You could argue that someone would have to be stupid to participate in the industry that we do, but it's another thing to defend these companies without any compensation. I don't disrespect you, but it's sad. I hope you can do better for yourself. Good luck homeboy. I think you're better than this.
I pay for kagi because it's genuinely less frustrating to use than searxng, duckduckgo, bing, and whatever shit Google is up to these days.
They're fine search engines but after years of using them I found they annoyed me sometimes; their limitations will surface if you use them long enough. In contrast, I haven't ran into a kagi search results page yet that has annoyed me by not finding what I expected to see.
The problem is that Google was good for a long time and then that became the bar everything is measured against. None of the free ones I tried came as close to that Google-like search from the before times as this paid service does.
FWIW - most mobile data plans roll over if you don't use them fully during the month.
(at least where I live)
Kagi is rolling this out to people who never use their service. So that would be equivalent to you paying your mobile provider and never making a phone call or text for an entire month.