Discussing jury nullification is against the ToS of lemmy.world and will get you banned, according to worldnews mod
Discussing jury nullification is against the ToS of lemmy.world and will get you banned, according to worldnews mod
As per .world worldnews mod, no discussing naughty stuff like jury nullification.
While this post is blowing up, here's the book referenced by the shooter:
Delay Deny Defend - Why Insurance Companies Don't Pay Claims and What You Can Do About It
By request: Full, uncensored video of the shooting. (Fucking obviously NSFW)
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i was asked to moderate anything that is illegal specifically mentioning "jury nullification" and "financially supporting" this has been changed now until a larger announcement is made
many admins and moderators at .world including myself are not american, i pray that the others who are angry at me and hope they consider there are more countries with laws that are different from them
you may disagree with my faith but i consider myself fair in my removal in this violation
when trump was shot i removed comments celebrating this violence when sinwar was killed i removed comments celebrating this violence so when this person is murdered i remove comments celebrating this violence
when users report these comments and those above me ask me to act on this topic i continue as i have for months in these communities
there was no good-faith and productive discussion to be had when you celebrate murder
how can you call others a tankie when you dance on graves as they do?
i have sympathy for the americans who are wronged by the man murdered but instead of violence maybe you consider reading a book to understand the world around you and be open to the power of faith to restore your love of humanity instead of parading violence
i was asked to moderate anything that is illegal specifically mentioning "jury nullification"
By who, pray tell? Because at the moment it seems like you're the only mod on the server doing so.
there are more countries with laws that are different from them
In which of these countries is it illegal to discuss jury nullification in the US?
i consider myself fair in my removal in this violation
Although you took actions that are based on a version of the rules that nobody else has access to?
those above me ask me to act on this topic
Again, you're the only one acting on this topic. Who is asking you to do so? Right now it seems like you're being hung out to dry.
there was no good-faith and productive discussion to be had when you celebrate murder
Weird, I'm seeing a ton of productive discussion in this thread
how can you call others a tankie when you dance on graves as they do?
Because that's not the definition of tankie. Dancing on graves is not an aspect of any particular ideology.
instead of violence maybe you consider reading a book to understand the world around you and be open to the power of faith to restore your love of humanity instead of parading violence
Stop trying to push your fucking religion on everybody else. You're the mod of c/News, not c/Christianity.
an admin/community manager were involved in the discussion with me and other moderators
they will be making an announcement on the issue i don't know when i followed the direction from above to act on the reports and then to stop acting on them
the announcement will include the information
i do not know where the server is?
the version of the rules is the terms of service? https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/
other mods removed posts and comments also the admins site banned people!
because you are discussing me? explain to me how can you have good-faith discussion of premeditated murder?
tankies kill without any respect for law and you are here encouraging this type of murder outside law and government how is it not the same?
you can read whatever book you want and what faith you desire
those that have no faith and do not read it is no surprise you become a murder cheering tankie
ask yourself why do the propaganda instances like .ml hexbear and lemmygrad support this and we are standing for civility?
those that have no faith and do not read it is no surprise you become a murder cheering tankie
Holy shit, you're still a mod?!? There's a difference between having faith and casting judgement on everyone else. Really fucking funny and ironic in this context.
You can have productive conversations on any topic. "Productive" here is an opinionated response, I've seen plenty of discussions involving the CEO roles/individuals and how harming the public might be viewed on a broader term since these companies have been documented doing just that. Interesting conversations diving into politics, class, morality, our justice system, etc etc on all these posts. It's unfortunate I have to enter into a meme community to have those though.
those that have no faith and do not read it is no surprise you become a murder cheering tankie
I thought only god could judge us you bloody hypocrite.
I was right, you're a fool. And you should not be a mod of any community. Especially when you're going on and fucking on about th TOS with contents that don't exist and oblivious to the content that is in there (like the server location).
i do not know where the server is?
From https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/
Our Governing Laws
The website and the agreement will be governed by and construed per the laws of the following countries and/or states:
The Netherlands
Republic of Finland
Federal Republic of Germanythe version of the rules is the terms of service? https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/
Yes, and nothing in that ToS actually prohibits the behaviour you are complaining about. Do you know why ToS and similar documents exist? So everybody has the same expectations and guidelines, and we can clearly see when somebody has stepped over the line. You've now declared that the ToS is invalid, and we're being judged based on a new one that will be Coming SoonTM. That's where this entire situation crosses the line into abuse of power, because instead of being impartial and enforcing the rules, you're enforcing your personal likes and desires onto the rest of us. Ironic, for somebody who claims that only God can judge anybody.
explain to me how can you have good-faith discussion of premeditated murder?
What's so difficult to understand? We're having a discussion. The entire internet is having a discussion right now. Some of it is crap-tier, but that applies to any content online. Others are learning stuff, engaging and growing their minds. What exactly is bad-faith about this?
tankies kill without any respect for law
You keep using the term 'tankies'. Do you actually know what it means? None of the things you've ascribed to them thus far have any actual relevance to their ideology. And now I'm annoyed that you're making me defend them.
how is it not the same?
It is unrelated, as it has nothing to do with our ideologies and political beliefs.
those that have no faith and do not read it is no surprise you become a murder cheering tankie
Nice to know your opinion of atheists and agnostics. I'm fairly certain that that statement breaks some of the .world ToS. Also, when did you become this judgemental? Only god should judge, you know.
ask yourself why do the propaganda instances like .ml hexbear and lemmygrad support this
The entire bloody internet is supporting this right now. Even the major news outlets have had to change their tune and switch from focusing on the 'brutal horror' to discussing why everybody's cheering the executioner on. Why? Because this has transcended the bullshit political boundaries and made people realise it's class warfare. Fuck the culture wars. Want to make things better? Scare a billionaire tonight.
i was asked to moderate anything that is illegal specifically mentioning “jury nullification”
Jury nullification is not illegal in the United States, the jurisdiction this would be tried in.
I’ve been searching around, not very in depth mind you, and I haven’t been able to find an instance of it being outright illegal in any western country. It ranges from being an accepted function of the jury, to being something that exists theoretically within the jury system but not being explicitly discussed, neither encouraged nor discouraged, in the the legal framework, to being not applicable at all because they don’t use juries at all.
Removing the US component to this situation and knowing that LW is hosted in the EU, I can’t find a single country that would impact the ability of people to discuss jury nullification on LW.
Again this is based on some cursory searches, so if I’m wrong and jury nullification is illegal in some EU country, please let me know.
Yeah...
I kind of want to know who the fuck said that, and how that person can be so uninformed that they think anyone ever mentioning a part of our legal system is always illegal...
Like, the only explanation is they read something years ago, never understood it, and are too over confident to spent 2 seconds to check.
That's not behavior you want in a mod and especially not an admin.
If one of the admins actually said that shit...
It probably really is time for a new instance.
i have sympathy for the americans who are wronged by the man murdered but instead of violence maybe you consider reading a book to understand the world around you and be open to the power of faith to restore your love of humanity instead of parading violence
Oh hey, I started reading the Bible from the beginning and in the first chapter the main character convinced a father to kill his own son then killed almost everyone on earth because he didn't like them. Are those the lessons I'm supposed to learn?
Edit: I skipped ahead a bit to the part where the punishment for having sex with someone who isn't your wife is to be stoned to death. Am I get warmer yet?
What about the part where one of the characters went around and cut off 200 penises from an ethno group he didn't like because the father of the girl he wanted to marry said 100 and he wanted to impress him?
And then Jesus came.
Don't be an ass and cherry pick when you have things like 2 Kings 2:23-25 to show you the grace and mercy of the lord's word.
"We are not American but we denounce all violence (except if it is done against American adversaries) and only allow posts from American favored media sources"
Did the CIA promise Lemmy.World admins green cards?
As a bribe or a punishment?
Bold to think they aren't already American citizens lolol
Glad it isn't my instance. A bullet for every CEO. Where's my ban? I'll go out as anything but a coward and I don't want anything to do with your cowardly instance.
You are a fool.
emoji display name always indicates that you are about to read some total shit
Although you might not agree with these comments you are abusing your power as a mod in order to stifle speech that you don't personally agree with. I could see it if it puts the website in danger of being taken down by some country that doesn't have as many free speech prorections as the u.s. or it violated some section of the law such as calls to violence or doxxing (giving out non-public information) Barring that, you're just abusing power.
Congratulations, you just sealed the deal for me on leaving this instance. How can I delete my account? You’re welcome to ban me by the way, if it scratches your authoritarian itch.
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