2024 Presidential Election Megapost!
2024 Presidential Election Megapost!
Edit 12:11 PM 11/6 Pacific
Kentucky (8), Indiana (11), West Virginia (4), Florida (30), South Carolina (9), Tennessee (11), Alabama (9), Mississippi (6), Oklahoma (7), Arkansas (6), North Dakota (3), South Dakota (3), Nebraska (4*), Wyoming (3), Louisiana (8), Texas (40), Ohio (17), Missouri (10), Montana (4), Utah (6), Idaho (4), Iowa (6), Kansas (6), North Carolina (BG-16), Georgia (BG-16), Pennsylvanya (BG-19), Wisconsin (10), Michigan (15), Maine (1*), Alaska (3), Arizona (11) and Nevada (6) called for Trump.
Vermont (3), Connecticut (7), District of Columbia (3), Maryland (10), Massachusetts (11), Rhode Island (4), Delaware (3), Illinois (19), New Jersey (14), New York (28), Colorado (10), California (54), Washington (12), Oregon (8), Virginia (13), Hawaii (4), New Mexico (5), New Hampshire (4), Minnesota (10), Nebraska (1*), Maine (3*) for Harris.
2 counties in PA have extended voting hours due to voting machine problems. 9:30 PM in one, 10:00 PM in the other.
Multiple precincts in Georgia have extended hours due to bomb threats.
Edit 03:09 PM Pacific Harris wins Guam.
This thread is for the Presidential election, my plan is to start marking wins as soon as they are called, sorted by time zone.
Some states are going to take longer than others. Polls generally close at 8 PM local time, but they can't start counting early/mail in votes until after the polls close.
Wisconsin in particular has an interesting system where ballots are collected by MUNICIPALITY, not precinct, they have over 1,800 ballot counting locations and don't report until ALL 1,800 are in.
https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2024/10/22/wisconsin-voters-election-milwaukee-security-denier
Currently 226 EC votes from Blue States:
4+19+10+7+3+3+4+10+11 +4+14+28+4+3+13+54+12 +10+5+8+6
NC called for Trump. -16 here, +16 to Trump.
GA called for Trump. -16 here, +16 to Trump.
PA called for Trump. -19 here, +19 to Trump.
AZ and NV both called for Trump, +11, +6
Which leaves 312 EC votes in Red States.
9+6+6+6+8+6+10+5+3+7 +3+40+30+11+8+17+9+11+4+3+4+4+3+16+16+19+11+6
270 to Win.
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Whoever ran the Harris campaign on Reddit deserves their salary. That was an amazing echo chamber that had me fooled. I was expecting a blue wave better than Biden 2020. Too bad it doesn't translate into the election.
Trump always overperforms. Even in 2020 he did better than he had any right to. This time there is no covid hanging over his head and Biden/Harris are taking all the blame for inflation.
It also does not hurt that millions of Americans willingly consume hours of right wing propaganda everyday. Fox News remains one of if not the top cable channel (after sports) and Joe Rogan one of the top podcasts. Meanwhile CNN has shifted right, papers like the Washington post have been compromised, and the remaining “liberal media” is so obsessed with appearing unbiased that they end up “sane washing” GOP craziness and inflating minor democrat flubs.
Biden 2020 was a nail-biter of a win and thus far I don't think any of the states he won have been called for Trump. But there being no surprises in the blue direction is not very comforting even if Harris does pull it out.
unfortunately it is not looking good
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/05/us/elections/results-president-forecast-needle.html
Georgia just got called for Trump.
Double standard. Trump wins 2016 and it's 4chan and reddit won it for him. Democrats finally get a clue 8 years later an start using social media but this time it doesn't factor.
It was the same here. Moderation in this sub (to a lessor extent) and other subs (world, news, political_memes), cultivated a garden, through bans, to echo back to themselves the world as they expected to see it. Lemmy is just as knee-jerk delusional in its bans/ down votes as reddit. Dissent gets ignored and down voted. Facts are down voted. Legitimate criticisms are down-voted. All, down-voted into oblivion, because people want a comfortable lie more than an inconvenient truth.
You picked up the wrong message if you think grandstanding about Palestine was going to have any effect on this election at all. A significant portion of this country has fallen to fascism already. We got a lot bigger problems to deal with than the protest vote about Gaza. This country is now a vassal state of Russia, and US hegemony has fallen to the same unitarian kleptocracy that defines the collectivist Eastern Bloc. Figure it the fuck out. War is coming. Decide which side you're gonna be on Komrade, or it will be decided for you.
You are just wrong. Harris lost this because of her campaign and her rejection of the Palestinian people was her first act as candidate. She led with a sense of entitlement that voters have no other option.
They do. She' and her apologists have doomed us all.
I am 100% correct. There is no significant population in this country that cares about the fate of Palestinians in comparison to how much they care about themselves.
If what you say is true, and I'm not suggesting it is- if our furthest left "viable" party can win on a platform that is funding genocide and barely opposing the
fascistsRepublicans, then we were doomed no matter what.Firsf of all, don't project your own arrogance onto the rest of us. Second, even ignoring Palestine, it was an objectively bad campaign. She didn't offer anything material to vote for beyond not being trump.
If what you say is true
It is.
we were doomed no matter what.
I agree. That is essentially the root of my argument based on the circumstances, historical context, and available evidence.
don't project your own arrogance onto the rest of us.
This is not not coming from a place of arrogance. I'm sorry if you interpret my comments this way. I take no pleasure nor pride in providing the analysis that violent resistance to to a rising tide of fascism may be necessary in our lifetime.
Second, even ignoring Palestine, it was an objectively bad campaign. She didn't offer anything material to vote for beyond not being trump.
I don't even necessarily disagree with this. I just thought the population would be more sober minded about the threat of ceding democracy to a demagogue who now has unchecked legal authority to remake society in his own image. I was wrong. I will never make that mistake again. From here on out I will be significantly more militant about my ideology.
I just thought the population would be more sober minded about the threat of ceding democracy to a demagogue who now has unchecked legal authority to remake society in his own image.
Most normal people don't want to believe that this is the case. They don't have to, they have had the privilege of ignoring it, for they are not the ones being persecuted. It's background noise and if anything it turns them off.
People care about healthcare, education, cost of living, career prospects, inflation, basic rights, y'know stuff that pertains to them in their everyday lives. If the Republicans are the only ones pointing that stuff out and offering any solutions, even if their reasons and solutions are bullshit and serve bigoted ends, people will be swayed to vote for them and will doubt and explain away all the negative media because it's unpleasant to think about.
Democrats just don't seem to be willing to champion popular policy, and that is why they lost.
Anyways, seems like we're only somewhat in disagreement.
I don't think we are actually in disagreement at all. I agree with every single thing you just framed out in your reply. I believe were just explaining different pieces of the same premise using our own perspective as the prism.
Edit: Didn't really intend for the alliteration, but I liked it so I decided to leave it even though normally I think that is kinda cringe...
what specific facts were down voted?
Literally any criticism of the Democratic party. Like how Biden dragged his feet on withdrawing and then we "didn't have time" for a primary.
Or criticism of foreign policy. Afghanistan was a cluster fuck and it seems both parties support Israel no matter what.
Letting the electorate focus on border security instead of protecting women's rights was another obvious blunder, but no one expected Abbott to bus migrants to liberal cities. Republicans are really good at making immigration an issue.
As mod, I was telling people at the time that Biden wouldn't win and Harris couldn't win either... nobody wanted to hear it. :(