The Vote Socialist campaign stands unequivocally with the Palestinian people as they stand strong in the face of one year of US-Israeli genocide in Gaza.
The Vote Socialist campaign stands unequivocally with the Palestinian people as they stand strong in the face of one year of US-Israeli genocide in Gaza.
For decades, we have been in the streets in defense of the Palestinian people, and will continue to fight until the total liberation of Palestine!
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Your opinion is noted, but I've heard the reverse of that statement from trans people as well, so...no?
So maybe you should stop treating trans people like a monolith and develop correct opinions like, "genocide is unacceptable and I should work against it".
This is why parent is correct and you are not.
Trans people are not a mono
The irony
and you do not speak for all of them any more than I speak for all white 20-something dudes.
Hey look a 20-sometging white dude that excuses the genocide of brown people. What a unique and uncommon development.
Your idea of working against genocide is...torpedoing other positive changes in people's lives by not participating in harm reduction? Interesting choice
Your idea of working against genocide is...torpedoing other positive changes in people's lives by not participating in harm reduction?
I've said nothing remotely like that. Though your attempt to characterize neoliberal genociders as harm reduction is noted.
I do actual work with and for trans people. Tangible things. Not sitting around being flippant about my support for genocide. That's your sin to mull over. Maybe you will forgive yourself some day.
And I applaud your work - however, surely you must understand the risks of a second Trump presidency, given what you do.
And all my "supporting for genocide" amounts to is being stuck with a two-party system. I only "support" it insofar as I must by the virtue of my vote going to the party that enables it (the only 2 with a chance to win do). I made my peace with choosing to accept that the US foreign policy apparatus is going to do these things regardless of which major party is in power, and the best option available of the two is the one that doesn't have a giant playbook for dismantling the few positive things we do have when they take power.
Contrary to what you may think, I truly do largely agree with many of the things being said here, BUT I have determined that the costs of effectively allowing Republicans to win by protesting and not voting for Kamala poses too great a risk to the things I care about. If my sin is weighing the lives of Palestinians today over the millions of climate refugees and minorities that will be harmed or killed by Republicans seizing power in the election, then so be it.
And I applaud your work - however, surely you must understand the risks of a second Trump presidency, given what you do.
I have already addressed lesser evil logic for supporting genocide. You can respond to that if you'd like.
And all my "supporting for genocide" amounts to is being stuck with a two-party system.
Incorrect. You can sit quietly under the two party system and be doing a better job than trying to vocally normalize genocide and get other people to think the same.
I only "support" it insofar as I must by the virtue of my vote going to the party that enables it (the only 2 with a chance to win do).
This also does not require you to vocalize normalizing genocide and telling people it's cool to support genociders. It also does not require you to tokenize trans people as if your support for genociders is somegow in solidarity with trans people.
I made my peace with choosing to accept that the US foreign policy apparatus is going to do these things regardless of which major party is in power
"I chose to help normalize genocide rather than work against it".
and the best option available of the two is the one that doesn't have a giant playbook for dismantling the few positive things we do have when they take power.
I have already addressed the illogic of lesser evilism. You have neither a personal moral nor strategic justification for what you are doing. You are not, in fact, "realizing" or accepting any kind of insight. You are repeating bog standard PR-tested talking points from the party and its supporters.
Contrary to what you may think, I truly do largely agree with many of the things being said here
No, you do not. You would like to feel like you do, but you actually work in opposition to them, and openly. You are not a friend or an ally of those facing genocide. You are a cheerleader for the genociders in power using their tired talking points. You are even being flippant and joking about genocide.
[repeating yourself with lesser evilism]
I have already addressed this.
Do as you like I guess, just don't be surprised if the planet cooks us alive before the revolution happens because we didn't try to minimize damage in the interim ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Kamala doesn't want to help the climate, liberal. She even wants to expand fracking! She just gives it lip service because that's all your fucking "harm reduction" amounts to in most cases, people using different words to characterize the same agenda. It's the same for immigration and it's the same for Israel.
All your "strategy" is possibly capable of is "reducing harm" (read: changing the language used) but never actually gaining ground and then fucking dying all the same.
Yup. There's no other reason to not want the Republicans to get into power, besides the climate, immigration, and Israel, no siree. Not a single other thing that might impact my day to day life
This is deeply disingenuous, because you've been continuously arguing that the Democrats are better on those things when you rattle off your lists in various conversations here. Like, I can sit here all day and think of issues and go through the histories both administrations have with them, but it won't matter that both Trump and Biden did fuck all about trans rights* but you can just keep throwing progressive issues at a wall until I get tired of responding, despite having no ability to prove shit about them.
And come the next conversation with anyone else, you'll keep pretending that Harris is better about immigration and so on, I suppose as a bluff that the people you're talking to don't know any better. It must be comfortable to not believe in anything while playing useful idiot for the Democrats.
*no I don't give a shit about the enlistment thing and neither should you, plus it gets reversed back and forth by executive order anyway
The genocidal candidate you are carrying water for is openly supporting fracking and continuing sanctions on Chinese solar panels (which has resulted in a massive backlog of installations that can't be fulfilled) during peak American oil production, resulting in it being a net exporter of fossil fuels. This is all a consequence of a political system where power flows from caoitalist class interests.
Yet something makes you believe that supporting the thing causing climate change is actually good and smart and "harm reduction" (even while literally being more measurable harm) and that I am irresponsible for organizing against it.
That something is propaganda. But unfortunately you are resistant to questioning it, even up to the point of supporting genocide. Personally, I think that should be a point where anyone should sat, "you know, I should really get my ducks in a row before sharing an opinion".
Alas.
And there's not a single thing the Dems have ever done that's good. Yup.
Look at the fantasies you concoct when you have no reply. You could instead just say, "I hadn't considered that and will think about it" or even not reply. But God forbid a person do anything but fight to the death regardless of merit, eh?