So I've handled quite a few vaporizers in my time (lost count after a few dozen lol).
I was excited to get this device for a few reasons including a few new aftermarket accessories which will be on the market soon.
I've only handled the device a few times so these are initial impressions:
Pros:
Nice heft in the hands - feels solid enough construction for the price. But that's expected from the manufacturer.
Flat base - unlike my HealthyRips Rogue which has rounded sides, this device has a flat base so it sits flush on a surface making it more stable (especially with the watertool attached)
Massive oven - this oven is larger than the Rogue (which is a decent size already)- it's just a smidge smaller in diameter than the S&B Dosing Capsules (maybe two or three millimeters smaller)
Removable 18650 battery - FINALLY!! Yes these batteries are not quite as reliable as the older LiPoly batteries they had been using in older models, but finally we have the ability to swap out batteries when you wear out a battery after 100 hours of use - it's also nice to easily swap out batteries with a precharged battery before heading out. Big win for sustainability over sealed-in batteries
USB-C charging - always a win. Now I can use one charger to charge both phone, and vaporizer, as well as any spare 18650 batteries I have with me (no need to lug around my Nitecore D2 on short road trips)
Love the upgraded slide mouthpiece. The older pop-in design used by the Rogue felt satisfying, but it was not durable and always wore-out on customers after heavy use. This new slide-in mouthpiece makes the device far more durable - I also like the added magnets for things to snap together
Glass mouthpiece - always a nice touch. Plus you can use other tools which slide into the same mouthpiece - including my old HealthyRips "water tool" inline vertical waterpipe which is pretty awesome for vaporbonging on vacation!
Fast enough heatup - from a cold start to 350F it took about 45 seconds. Seems like the temperature sensor is measuring a different spot, not exactly on the heater itself - possibly in the air chamber above the heater.. Just based on how I've seen it heatup compared to other devices made by the same manufacturer (including the rogue)
Cons:
No pass-through charging. Not entirely unsurprising, but you cannot charge the device while using it. The workaround is simple: buy a few spare batteries and recharge them
Short Auto-off timer - feels like the unit always shuts off too fast. I wish it had a 7.5 or 10 minute timer - or the ability to disable it (maybe there is and I haven't RTFM to find out haha)
Minimum temperature of 320F - that's a bit high for me personally. I wish they had set it to a minimum of 300F
Draw restriction - feels a bit restricted which isn't terrible (and likely intentional), but I would have preferred a bit more
As other's have said, it's an upgraded HealthyRips Rogue and that's a fair assessment - it has some good upgrades (especially the swappable 18650 battery slot) which makes it a fair more durable and sustainable device.
Now to get back to some more R&D so I can finalize some new widgets!
Lol, yeah f*ck r_ddit - I'd much rather see this community grow in the fediverse!
convection or conduction heating?
I'd call it a hybrid. Given the placement of the oven and the heater, it feels like it does have a small convection heater, but it benefits greatly from hybrid heating once it heats up.
on-demand or session?
I mean I feel like without a dosing capsule you can probably treat it almost like an on-demand device, HOWEVER it's not. I'm a session guy and I'd treat this more like a session device
i need to know these things for when my milaana vape dies. i feel like the button is already getting a little sketchy. meh.
Having handled an original Milaana (and zion), this is not a Milaana. If you want to directly replace the Milaana, look into any one of the sub-ohm 510 attachment vaporizers on the market and pair it with a decent ecig battery (with subohm compatibility)
Personally, I feel this device is best suited to someone who has a POTV One and looking for an upgrade OR the average ent who has $150 to blow on a vaporizer to "test the waters" and looking for a good entry-level device which is a solid hitter. The oven size is almost too big for me, but I bet it's perfect for the first-time vaporent buying their first device trying to make the switch from smoking.
But yeah, I wouldn't put this in the same ballpark as the Milaana at all haha - that's a very different vaporizer
Appreciate the review! While the oven is too large for my needs the replaceable battery is a huge upgrade. My Edge is still going strong, but this is a definite contender as a replacement when it inevitably dies.
Always happy to contribute. For sure if your edge is still chugging along, I don't see any reason to replace it.
the oven is too large for my needs
LPT - you can use an EMPTY dosing capsule as a spacer for microdosing. Place your herb inside the oven, then put an empty dosing capsule on top to hold things in place - you can use the dosing capsule with or without the lid to adjust microdose load sizes.
This works for essentially any vaporizer which uses dosing capsules, including your Fury Edge. It's a great way to get a little nip throughout the day while still retaining that fresh green flavor for each sesh.
I think it's meant to be similar to the Crafty+ with a couple upgrades at a more competitive price point. The removable battery would be a welcome change, but a smaller chamber might mean even more interruptions to sessions.
I'd like to see a direct comparison between those two addressing vapor production and quality. For the price it's pretty tempting just for the battery options though.
But you’re saying this doesn’t take capsules? That kinda sucks.
Ah should of mentioned. No this sucker has LARGE dosing capsules (which are larger than the POTV One/Edge and Rogue capsules). So it is a different size dosing capsule. Almost too large in my opinion (these capsules are close to the same size diameter as S&B Capsules, and taller)
Nice, nothing I'm particularly interested in personally but it's good to see more options in the mid priced section pop up! Any reason to recommend it to people who want to get their feet wet over a V3 Pro for example?
So I have an Xmax V3 pro in my collection. The Lobo has a larger oven and a better heater which doesn't quite "roast' the herb the same way as the xmax v3 pro.
I think it comes down to form factor and load sizes. If the newbie needs a big cloud chaser, I'd go for the Lobo. If they want something with no glass mouthpiece to break, the V3 pro makes more sense.
Personally between the two I'd say the Lobo is better. But it's also a bit more expensive than the V3 pro these days.
Bit late to the game, but I've been looking for a new vape for some days now and I've been watching the Lobo, but the shipping to Europe is just ... wow. I've reached out to them regarding a distributor, but they don't have any yet and I'm not sure if they're planning. I've decided for the HealthyRips Rogue now and I think it's a solid choice (I didn't want the tiny battery of the Fenix which might have been sufficient besides that). Thank you for your effort my friend <3