There have been a number of attacks on journalists in Kosovo in recent years. Now, conservative Muslims in the southern Kosovar city of Prizren are agitating against a news portal and a journalist.
There have been a number of attacks on journalists in Kosovo in recent years. Now, conservative Muslims in the southern Kosovar city of Prizren are agitating against a news portal and a journalist.
Turkey under the Kemalists is an example of a primarily Muslim nation at least attempting to build a liberal democracy.
Yes, building a liberal democracy by using military dictatorships. When you are trying to force something on people that dont want it(at least the majority), thats when you get Erdogan. It might suck for turks living in Western Turkey and in cities like Istanbul, Izmir and Ankara but the other half of turks have a majority.
And one of the fundamental principles of a democracy is that majority rules. You cant use the military to overthrow democratically elected governments just because you dont like their policy.
However, i agree with your point, there are plenty of turks who selfidentity as muslim and are ok with lgbtq, etc, just like there are christians. Though i never understood how that works. Like how can the Church of Sweden participate in Pride parades. At what point something stops being christianity and becomes a social club? In the Bible is clearly says that homosexuality is bad.
The Bible, at least the NT, also clearly says love all humanity including, no, especially the sinner. Hell the Bible says just about everything if you read the whole thing.
I mean this is what homophobes use when they say "hate the sin, love the sinner". You are still a sinner. And this isnt just some interpretation or parable, it clearly says it is an abomination. It's just silly.
The New Testament says that homosexuality is a “shameful lust” (Romans 1:26), a “shameful act,” an abandonment of “natural relations” (Romans 1:27), a “wrongdoing” (1 Corinthians 6:9), and “sexual immorality and perversion” (Jude 1:7). Homosexuality carries a “due penalty” (Romans 1:27), “is contrary to the sound doctrine” (1 Timothy 1:10), and is listed among the sins that bar people from the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9). Despite the attempts of some to downplay these verses, the Bible could not be clearer that homosexuality is a sin against God.
That fundamental principle of democracy also demands that minorities still have their rights protected.
Enforcing Islam on them isn't protecting their rights.
You want to practice fundamentalist Islam, you go do that, so long as you don't hurt anyone or try to force it on anyone else, but your majority rights to swing your fist end at my face.
That fundamental principle of democracy also demands that minorities still have their rights protected.
It depends on the democracy. Ancient Athens had democracy, yet women had basically no rights and slaves were a thing. In Sparta, which had 2 kings, greatly opposed democracy and a militaristic society(with abhorrent generational slavery), women had a lot more rights, were getting educated, etc. From Plutarch "quoting" Gorgo(Queen of Sparta, wife of Leonidas)
"Why are you Spartan women the only ones who can rule men?"
"Because we are also the only ones who give birth to men."
"Spartan women were famous in ancient Greece for having more freedom than women elsewhere in the Greek world. To contemporaries outside of Sparta, Spartan women had a reputation for promiscuity and controlling their husbands. Unlike their Athenian counterparts, Spartan women could legally own and inherit property and they were usually better educated."
Etymologically and historically, democracy just means that the people(majority) hold the power. The association of democracy with human rights, is a somewhat modern interpretation. If the people of Turkey or Egypt want their country to be an islamic country shouldnt they have that right?
I think it is complicated. And becomes even more complicated when you dont have freedom of movement between most countries(so people are basically doomed to exist where they are born). But i think preferring the military overthrow of a democratically elected government just because it doesnt align with your moral values, sets a very dangerous precedent that threatens the very core of democracy.
If Trump was elected, would you be in favor of a military intervention because he doesnt align with your moral values? Because this is exactly what many Trump fans were asking, after Trump lost the election. And once you start using military force to overthrow the elections, democracy is done.
force it on anyone else
We are forcing tons of things on people in democratic countries. Child education for example. While in the US, you can home "educate" your child, in most countries your child is required by law to attend a school. Raw milk is illegal in most countries. You are forced to pay health insurance(in countries other than the US). You are forced to wear clothes. You are forced to pay for state tv(except in the US) even if you never watch it.
Personal liberty is restricted. And you could argue that it is "for the greater good" but you could also use the same excuse for an islamic state that restricts homosexuality.
The message on the screens is accompanied by images of Vullnet Krasniqi, a well-known journalist at Nacionale, and the words "Press freedom ends with offense."
The call to join the protest said that the singer's performance had been incompatible with tradition and culture, was a threat to children and would lead to "degeneration."
When he asked some of the protesters what aspect of Peaches' performance posed a threat to children and what they meant by "degeneration," things turned ugly.
On another occasion, a journalist was brutally beaten for using a sarcastic tone in a Facebook post about an ultraconservative imam from Prizren who had been given a Mercedes as a retirement present by the members of his community.
Although radical Islam is not an immediate political threat in Kosovo, Xharra sees a dangerous phenomenon behind the campaign against Krasniqi.
By the time of publication, DW had received no answer to a request for a comment from a government spokesperson on the campaign against the journalist and Nacionale.
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