politics @lemmy.world jeffw @lemmy.world 3mo ago

Trump and Harris agree on “no tax on tips.” They’re both wrong.

www.vox.com Trump and Harris agree on “no tax on tips.” They’re both wrong.

”No tax on tips” looks less like a pro-worker tax credit and more like a big business tax cut.

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Devils advocate here. How do you incentivize doing a good job as a waitstaff without increasing costs without tips? If your pay is x and no tips, what else is there other than do a good job or else I’ll fire you?
- The same way as every other job on earth that doesn't tip.
  
  A 10 cent raise? There are servers that make several hundred dollars a week due to tips and you want them to give that up for a yearly 10 cent raise? Good luck convincing anyone to give that up.
- How do you incentivize doing a good job
  
  By paying them, same as any other job. Should every other job be 2.13 plus tips because your infernal client feels like obstreperous karens should decide if a person deserves food and shelter based on how thorough a job they do of kissing ass?
  
  You are being disingenuous by suggesting all service is equal. There is a difference between exceptional customer service and mediocre. Don’t you think servers should be able to be rewarded for going above and beyond?
  
  Obviously the business needs to pay a fair wage but tipping in the service industry allows exceptional service to be rewarded.
  
  Don’t you think servers should be able to be rewarded for going above and beyond?
  
  Sure. Here. have a Jack Chick Tract. 2.13 is obscene and you know it.
  
  I never once said that it is ok to pay servers below minimum wage because they make it up in tips. Using that as your argument for why we shouldn’t tip is a straw man fallacy.
  
  If a place is offering below minimum wage to work for tips, who’s fault is it for working there? I understand that people are many times not in a position to negotiate pay, especially when it’s an industry standard but at some point workers have to stand up for themselves. There is a huge movement here in the US with millennials and gen x refusing to work for poor pay. That is the only way to change the industry.
  
  I never once said that it is ok to pay servers below minimum wage because they make it up in tips
  
  2.13 is the minimum wage for tipped workers.
  
  And now you're blaming the exploited for their exploitation.
  
  Why even have a minimum wage when the people with no power at all can just choose not to be exploited and starve?

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