Growing the site / proposed measures

I'm sorry for not giving input before this, i'm just mentally not available for this past few days. So i just gonna post my feedback here:

• We have a tons of communities and interest, but if you haven't noticed yet, the activity level aren't great.

• Even with the highest user count community, !cafe, the post count is still 37 total, or 1.85 post per day, the rest is daily scheduled thread. Which is a lot for a small site like this one.

• This isn't meant to discount the effort of everyone who generate content, for that, i sincerely thank everyone for their effort(luv you guys), but this is to highlight we're still not there yet to even begin to do this cross promotion.

• What we need now is retention of the current active and newer member, the stuff that make people wanna stick around. This could be anything, familiar face, place to chitchat, content they enthusiastic about, etc etc. We shouldn't discount any community that will make people stay, regardless of what other site's stats said.

• IMO, !cafe fit this bill, and already are a place where people keep coming back to, and i thank @imaginelizard for running this one. It's the highest active user count, it's the most casual and cosy community, and people generally just want to have a place to chitchat without create any post.

• I believe the reply to this comment speaks what this community is thinking, and why a lot of people doesn't stick around.

• We're barely a month old, and the water haven't even heat up yet. Creating more site visit/signup just to fulfill the kpi is just meaningless at this point, as we're running too thin on consistency. We'll just see what we see the first week, people flock in, people flock out, 0 retention.

• Give it a few more months, and we'll see if we're ready to do any crosspromo thing, could be sooner with an event hosted exclusively here. For now passively direct people here with the occasional shout out would be best IMHO.

• I honestly doesn't know what this new community about. The following is just my honest opinion about it and represent no one, and i hope i don't sound too harsh.

• I'm not sure what others think, but to me, Monyet.cc IS Malaysia.

• This site is mostly about Malaysia; the news, the politic, the topic, the meme, the pic, the question, etc. When people want content not of Malaysia, they be browsing lemmy.world or lemmy.ml.

• Unless you intended for this site to be merely a portal for people to use Lemmy and Fediverse, this new community create unwanted redundancy and confusion for newcomers.

• As an admin, one should have a clear goal when create and seeding a community. All community created must serve a unique purpose, even when it overlap with another community, as long as it can have their own unique feature, the overlapping is irrelevant. Have to lead by example, and inspire people to do the same.

• Maybe i'm stupid, and i think i am, but I just cannot see or foresee a future where !Malaysia doesn't have any overlapping content. It's just too general to stand on its own.

My view is, if you wanna grow this site, create and seed the community like you will do with your farm in Stardew Valley. Only clear the part you wanna plant your crops, and help others with their works when you done water your field. If you cannot handle the whole farm, there's no need to clean the whole farm, you will only create a whole patch of empty land you have no time to use. It need time and dedication to do it.

I have to say that the fastest way I grew a subreddit was by submitting posts regularly over a very long time - but I'm not familiar with fediverse all - there has to be a place where it can be seen.

Back when Geocities was new and search engines doesn't exist yet, the only way to be found was basically when other sites has your links. Can we put links to other country communities and so have a reason to contact them having ours linked there (let's discuss having all the country communities link each other!!),

Just my 2 cents.

1. For now making a new sub/community is still free for all, I think it's about time we set some rules. a. Are NSFW and NSFL sub/community allowed? b. Should we have a quorum on new sub/community registration?

2. A server-wide rules are required. Now the community is still small, and thus we don't have much contents yet to draw people to comment. When the numbers do come in, we inevitably will have nyets who are way too opinionated and may cross the line by being racist, hateful, and generally trolling and flaming. I believe rules will be needed to ensure discussions remain polite and fruitful without delving into a mudslinging, low effort flaming/trolling attempt, while at the same time preserving the freedom of speech. Nyets are welcome to comment (freedom of speech), but they have to be respectful (no freedom from consequences).

This is just what I had in mind, welcome discussions on this. I haven't been on reddit much, and I do hope this place grows.

What about cultural exchange kind of connection with other countries' platforms? This may not actively bring in new people but it might be something that helps retention.

I think it will have a different feel from the ones being conducted on r/my because the people on lemmy are kind of pioneers and mostly active participants, so the vibe and activity might be more energetic.

I suggest mods to spent less effort on the other platform, and focus on here. Post some exclusive contents here, lure monyets from r/malaysia here and ditch the r/malaysia.

Viral, controversial, exclusive contents here not r/malaysia, maybe that will stick, I stopped using reddit since July 1, mods also need to show determination for changes.

The way i see is Reddit is becoming the Digg, Slashdot...and Yahoo.

What I'm sorta doing, by accident (because I blur sotong), is in my news posts, I ask clarifications on what I'm reading/sharing. I think most ppl feel not ready or segan or just not their thing to make new posts/new links, but they're exactly the right kind of ppl to comment. Having that also helps in retention because all that doesn't have to be seen as sembang kosong. Esp with twt also macam nak condemn and fb is what it is, and TikTok is hard to follow discussions, this can be a spot (in a way like LY.n) where you can track the general discussions important to us for the day. Like, I got rly good info to understand the whole nicotine issue. That sort of thing is useful!

The c/transport can be a big draw here too, for similar reasons. But yeah, no need yet themed weeks just yet, need to see what's organically sustainable, because it depends a lot on personally motivated users. Like the c/K-drama - that's just genius, frankly, if enough ppl layan.

(Still memendam hasrat for c/kakiwayang. I'll think about it lol) ETA: nvm lololol u/penangkia sudah set up hehheeh

Re: 4.2 -
I've been meaning to set up a submission thread for [email protected]'s header and a discussion thread on [email protected], I guess now's a good time as any. It just sucks that for the last few days now I don't have access to my PC.

Re: 4.3 -

• Not sure. Having everything public on Lemmy has its merits but could be noisy (and nosey).
• Discord might work but antithetical to the spirit of the platform -tho tbc I don't have problem with it.
• Lemmy's DM supports Matrix integration but I haven't set mine up. Idk if it has group DMs like Discord.

just wondering how the pict-rs storage usage is like, I've heard that it increases very rapidly, due to the caching of images from remote instances.

with the stable release of pict-rs 0.4.0, admins of medium and large instances are now able to move to object storage to keep costs down.

if there's any intention of migrating, you should do so before the large amount of images make uploading them to object storage difficult.

as you want to continue growing your userbase, this must be given serious consideration.

On the part of encouraging ppl to check stuff out... Here's how a Lemmy post federates to my feed on a Mastodon fork, compared to how a kbin one looks (using the Fedilab client)

Kbin pushes out the first 2 lines min plus user pic AND all the tags used. The magazine/community also gets its own hashtag. It's a lot nicer to boost to randos, they immediately get what I'm sharing (because sometimes those link previews don't work so fast)

Here's how a monyet post looks on kbin.social (the main instance but not the only kbin instance). can I boost this version/copy instead? Sure I can, but crapshoot on how well the comments come back here. 100% success from kbin.social accounts so far tho.

On my calckey instance tho, nothing is fetched, or fetched well (so far) - this can be a concern because there's more & more ppl using *key softwares rather than the mastos, but that is down the line.

Within the fediverse regardless, discoverability is via hashtags, so one way monyets can start adopting is using them at the start. But that is still a suggestion.