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On asceticism, aestheticism, western perspectives of socialism, and catgirls

In the West, we are constantly bombarded with lies and blatantly incorrect statements about the living conditions of socialist countries. During the original Cold War, depictions of the USSR as a cold, purely utilitarian world with extreme restrictions on any sort of luxury were quite frequent, and though they were blatantly false, it still rubbed off on the West’s impression of socialism in numerous ways that affect even those ideologically committed to socialism subconsciously.

How else to explain the existence of “Nazbol” ideology? People, due to some degree of ignorance about the true nature of the USSR and of socialism in general, but drawn to ascetic, “anti-excessive” (excessive, a term butchered and vulgarized so much I could write an essay about that alone) aesthetics. These people could be drawn to this completely illusory ideology due to bigotry, mere aesthetic appeal, or any number of reasons, but the important thing to remember is that the majority of people are not like this.

The USSR greatly supported “excessive” things that the Nazbol would see as absurd. State-funded movie directors existed. And the USSR pioneered much of modern animation. And what a legacy that is! Not only is animation for the sake of art and self-expression the furthest from cold asceticism I can think of, this deeply important art form has direct ties with numerous current-day queer communities.

Socialism and “excessive” art does not end with the USSR. Anyone who has been in the furry community long enough knows this to be the case. I will not elaborate as to respect the instance’s rules against sexual content (though, arguably, the original content is not sexual, the internet’s general reaction to it definitely was, and the original was by no means drab). The fact I even have to specify that hopefully demonstrates my point.

In this present day, despite all of these obvious examples of rich, romantic and “excessive” art from socialist countries, the Western left still had a somewhat ascetic view of socialism, this could be based on a misguided belief that Lenin’s view of a responsible and likeable revolutionary was proposing excessive self-restraint, but if anyone truly believed that Lenin advocated that, it’s quite sad. Beating yourself up moralistically for enjoying anything is a fairly reliable way to get people to think you’re weird, in a way more unsettling to people than any kind of “excessive” activity the Nazbol would despise.

I propose that we must fight this tendency however we can. But how?

Does anyone else remember when a socialist subreddit banned catgirls for objectifying women?

I’m not going to get into if that was right or wrong here, but it sounds like a pretty good example of something “excessive”, something which, even when having it’s truly problematic character removed from it (possibly especially at that point given how misogynistic Nazbols probably are) scares the aesthetically committed revolutionary.

These days, the catgirl is not exclusively associated with misogyny. Plenty of queer and women-dominated spaces have adopted it as an icon of sorts. We can, then, fight two reactionary tendencies, social conservatism and Nazbol ideology, with one stone.

Let’s post more catgirls. And make them queer feminist ones.

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  • I see the arguments here seem to be that we should either dedicate all hours possible as revolutionaries or spend time having fun. I think we should be able to have fun to keep ourselves sane, and do revolutionary action to help with the nagging realization that we are part of the problem.

    In the first world, its not wrong to make revolutionary art if you can't figure out a way to organize the working class as a whole and you are already doing some sort of other work too.

    • I think we should be able to have fun to keep ourselves sane, and do revolutionary action to help with the nagging realization that we are part of the problem.

      This is what I've been saying! Holy shit, I'm beyond perplexed that some people just don't understand the need for a balance between activities. We're only humans.

      Hell, revolutionaries were humans too! They weren't some fucking angels sent by god whose only job was to bring socialism among the masses, do productive/"beneficial" work all their waking hours and then pass on.

      Engels sketched art that could be considered pornographic, Stalin himself passed on the boof a few times in the past; and this guy acts as if it's haram for us revolutionaries to enjoy life a little before going back to spreading socialism.

      Reminds me of Wahhabi-Salafists honestly.

      It's thanks to this guy that I'm forced to add a new rule to the community asking people to ignore/block the community and move the hell on with their lives if they don't like catgirls; instead of heckling comrades who like catgirls about how it's "childish" or "le bourgeoisie decadence" it is like another user who once called Anime as a thing only kids like and it's not for us "grown ups" to like.

  • I just don't see the value in catgirls. When it comes to brocialists (socially conservative leftists), which I believe you are conflating with nazbols (fascists who LARP as socialists to amplify their message by bringing to it a veil of legitimacy), the point of unity is class membership, it's the 1 thing which connects all workers no matter our differences. Posting more catgirls (not in catgirl communities) and other examples simply outlines our differences more. The distinction between brocialists and modern Marxism members must be based on class and not social stances. One does not attempt to recruit a pro-LGBT billionaire towards Marxism as we recognize it as a waste of time, their class interests contradict the goals of Marxism. The same follows all ideologies our class has stumbled into. (except nazism, this is the outlier)

    As far as all infantilized content (anime, furries, etc...), I view it as utopian. Understand this cutesy fluffy content is being generated within the context of outright vicious class war. And as such, it can only serve to disarm or hinder the orientation of our class at addressing this. We are not on cloud 9, we are in war. Believing otherwise is the equivalent of religion under feudalism - a new mental and social opioid of the masses. The difference between cat videos and shooting heroin is heroin is a lifestyle, a habit-forming flow of the day altering metaphorical cage which prevent the worker from toiling, reflecting, radicalizing, socializing, and coagulating. All in all, we're just not having a fun time and pretending otherwise is simply lying to yourself.

    As per the drugs conversation (which demonstrated the necessity of this disclaimer of sorts), I don't advocate for shunning those who partake, but not advocate for these things ourselves and work to help our comrades to realign themselves with material reality.

    I must say reading history it is apparently clear, there has never been such a time of so many idealistic thoughts, concepts, and movements since the time of peak religion.

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