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[Completed] Lemmy.World update to Lemmy 0.19.9 on 16th of March, 16:00 UTC

Hello,

we will be performing the long awaited update to Lemmy 0.19.9 tomorrow.

We are planning for around 1 hour of downtime between 16:00-17:00 UTC on 16th of March.

You can convert this to your local time here: https://inmytime.zone/?iso=2025-03-16T16%3A00%3A00.000Z

You can find an overview of the changes in our previous announcement here and in the Lemmy release notes:

Update 16:50 UTC:

The upgrade was successfully completed at around 16:27 UTC, but we're still fighting with some performance issues after the upgrade. Our database and the outbound federation container are currently using significantly higher CPU than expected, which is still being investigated to identify the root cause.

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  • Someone ELI5 why Lemmy is or isn't ready for a Reddit Exodus.

    Personally, I want it to be. Reddit censorship/shadowbans/deletes is outta control. Imo the problem lemmy has is on Desktop, since on Android there are some great apps like Boost that give it a Reddit-like end user experience, wheras Desktop experience in a browser is No equivalent of RES, or classic reddit. Opening images is very janky. I like RESs 'view images buttons, that untwirls all view image buttons. Using lemmy on desktop is a Chore. I can handle it. But I imagine its very much a bad taste and an impediment to a greater influx of average users.

    Its about time we left reddit behind and make Desktop lemmy more welcoming. The times we're in requires a trustable platform. Reddit ain't it.

    • Try this out and see: go to PieFed.social and make an account. See the sign-up wizard, which asks you what you interests are and subscribes you to communities based on that, and asks how much content you want to see with the keywords "Trump" or "Musk" - none, a little, or all/no filtering - and check out the user customizable and shareable Feeds that were recently added (the equivalent of multi-Reddits, a highly requested feature).

      The Fediverse is growing up. Lemmy... well, has the advantage of the legacy work put into it so far - e.g. all the apps that currently work for it (though with some, like Sync, falling behind).

      PieFed is even opening up new avenues in the democratization of moderation, allowing the user to control what they want. Lemmy, meanwhile, is somehow becoming more like Reddit over time rather than less - e.g. while it has the modlog, it lacks a modmail, and any notification of a moderation action (removal, locking, banning, etc.) and while it used to report the name of a mod who removed content (iirc you might be used to that on LW, being on 0.19.3, until just now?), now it just says "mod". So there is no way to appeal or ask about or even be notified that your content has been moderated. Even Reddit was more friendly than that!?!?!?

      The promise of the Fediverse is that we can keep hopping to new places, not that any one place will be any good, but the tools man, the tools... they are pretty authoritarian in nature, when you stop to think about it, they REALLY are. imho at least.

      And Reddit has the content. And no tankies (but does have conservatives). Overall, the vast majority of people (centrists mainly, and who don't use Arch Linux btw) prefer simply to remain on Reddit, seeing no real reason to move.

      • What features does lemmy have that piefed is missing?

        • I don't have a comprehensive listing, but one example I can think of offhand is that the search function works much better on Lemmy (and is about to improve further by restricting to the title field). The PieFed search feature that exists now (like Reddit's) is pretty bad, where you can paste an exact title but somehow get no matches.

          An extremely minor one is that there is no preview of comments before submitting, although a preview was recently added for posts so one for comments surely is not far behind.

          A more major one is that PieFed does not work quite as well for navigating "deeper" posts - you can only toggle between the one comment you are at in the moment, with its immediate parent, and "all comments" in a post, which for deeper posts also loses the entire chain bc it gets hidden below a "Continue thread" link, so even searching for exact text won't find it and instead you have to go through every single one of those one by one until you manage to stumble upon it. Lemmy is starting to do the latter as well, in a manner similar to how Reddit started to leave behind old-Reddit and transition to new-Reddit - which I do NOT like! - but at least when you somehow get a link to a comment (e.g. in a notification from when someone replies to you; or if someone sends it to you), then you can step up the chain one comment at a time, which makes working with those a lot easier.

          Edit: and needing to edit this post to correct an autocorrect reminds me that editing comments on PieFed is very frustrating - it takes you to a separate page, then when you are done returns to the OP (not even going directly to your comment for some reason?), which completely obliterates your progress, e.g. if you had comments sorted and some hidden as you read through them all, then it's very frustrating that all of your effort in those regards get discarded.

          Then again, there is now a fork of Thunder that is being tested on PieFed, so many/most of the above could be addressed that way? And it's not like Lemmy does not have frustrations of its own as well, in different areas.

          I haven't tested moderation tools on PieFed yet.

          Mainly, PieFed is both ahead of Lemmy in terms of features overall, especially for a new joiner with the sign-up wizard and the preloading of all communities across the entire Fediverse, while also being less polished than Lemmy in some other respects. But it's closing the gap REALLY fast!:-)

    • in my opinion it's the login experience. selecting an instance is too confusing for the average user.

    • https://old.lemmy.world/ has a "show images" feature

    • For me to rely on Lemmy for news, there needs to be a LOT more action. Right now Reddit can be my sole news source because of how many people are on there.

      The problem can be seen when looking at Twitter/X and the exodus that has been happening there. Mastodon was touted as a Twitter alternative but the onboarding was so confusing due to being federated. People don't want to be confused they want things simple. This is why BlueSky took off rather than Mastodon.

      Anyone remember Diaspora?*

      Decentralization is not a new idea, it's just too confusing to the masses right now. While the Lemmy onboarding process is actually pretty good, picking an instance is a trip up (it was for me for a very long time and I'm tech-savvy). Until that part is solved centralized services will always have more migrating users sadly.

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