Ngl, the cringiest article by “no-free-chargers evangelist”
Ngl, the cringiest article by “no-free-chargers evangelist”
A gigantic wall of text just to say we don’t have free chargers for whatever reason. IMHO they totally miss the point of the controversy…
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I glossed over it. I'm not really sure what their position, but I don't think any devices should come with USB-C chargers.
They're not going to throw in nice ones, they're going to throw in cheap junk.
When I got my Steam Deck I was super disappointed that it came with a USBC charger with the cable that was fixed to the power brick and only 3 feet long. So it's basically useless. I already have a dozen 45W+ chargers with multiple charging ports and A/C. I already have some really nice 10 foot braided cables that actually reach where I need them to. That charging brick is still sitting in it's box.
It's my only charger other than my iPad that delivers a high wattage, so I use it and happy for it.
I think I must be you, but from an alternate, worse reality, since I'm in the exact opposite scenario.
I recently purchased a Steam Deck and a little while after that, a new phone, and currently the Steam Deck charger is only fast charger I have in my home (since I didn't really have any devices that required them before). This sucks, since now I need to purchase at least two USB-C PD adapters since I need two different chargers for the phone. Obviously this isn't an insurmountable obstacle, but it definitely would've been nice to have at least one included with the phone.
This sucks...since I need two different chargers for the phone.
...why do you need 2 chargers?
Have you never owned a laptop before? Have you never owned a PD charging phone before? Will you never own them again?
it definitely would've been nice to have at least one included with the phone.
If they included one with the phone, it would have been cheap crap that only served to charge the phone. Buy a nicer, more universal one, and then never buy one again. Or be like me and buy a handful of them to leave all over the house.
…why do you need 2 chargers?
One for my desk, the other for my bedside. I could keep carrying them back and forth, but that's a bit annoying, yeah?
Have you never owned a laptop before? Have you never owned a PD charging phone before?
Not really? I have an old as fuck laptop with a power brick, and previously owned a Pixel 4a, which does have PD, but only up to 18W.
One for my desk, the other for my bedside.
Sorry, you specifically said 2 different chargers, so I thought you had some misconception about how USB-PD works.
You skipped the last question. In 10 years or whatever, when you buy another new phone/laptop/literally any electronic device, you'll be able to charge it with the same charger you already have and won't have another one filling up your drawers like I do.
Also didn't reply to the bit about having an actually good and useful charger. When I bought my laptop, I threw the included one in the drawer and bought another one anyway that can be used to charge my phone and/or other devices. I even have one that looks like a normal charger but is actually a dock to connect a second monitor.
I want to preface this by saying that I just wanted to share my own experience and point out that not everybody is in the same situation you're in. You're treating this like we're having a debate, and I don't really know why.
You skipped the last question. In 10 years or whatever, when you buy another new phone/laptop/literally any electronic device, you’ll be able to charge it with the same charger you already have and won’t have another one filling up your drawers like I do.
Well, maybe? Considering I only buy phones every 4 or so years, it's not impossible by that point I'll need an entirely different charger to get maximum charging speed. Either way, I currently only have the Steam Deck charger, so I'll need to purchase some.
Also didn’t reply to the bit about having an actually good and useful charger.
We're veering into the realm of the hypothetical since most phone manufacturers don't include chargers any more, but certainly at least some manufacturers would include full speed chargers with their phones if that was still the trend. I know OnePlus already does, at least for some models?
not everybody is in the same situation you're in
The vast majority of people are.
You're treating this like we're having a debate, and I don't really know why.
Because I said they shouldn't be included and detailed why, and you disagreed 🤷
it's not impossible by that point I'll need an entirely different charger to get maximum charging speed.
It is extremely unlikely that your new phone would consume more power than your "old as fuck" laptop or your Steam Deck charger. It is, however, extremely likely that your new faster-charging phone would require a faster charger than your previous phone would include.
We're veering into the realm of the hypothetical
Yes and no. If they were required to, it's very likely they would continue doing what they have been doing for decades.
It really seems like you're trying to plead the case for very obscure use-cases and not living in reality.