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So this was me.

Honestly, MLs tend to do this with a lot of convos, I feel.

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  • I mean yes both Dems and Republicans are capitalist imperialists who are never reformable and will forever be capitalist imperialists, however while the revolution hasn't happened yet it is important to vote Dems which takes barely any effort.

    Conservatives straight up are threatening the lives of minority groups and LGBTQ on an entirely different scale than democrats and life for me as a minority living in the US has gotten significantly worse since trump.

    It is idealistic to just not vote or vote for some 3rd party that never wins while real shit has been ramping up for people like me from the republican side (and yes I know Dems do it too and are also bigoted racists but again Republicans do it on a whole nother scale).

    • If the left guarantees dems our votes then they will only move further right to get anti-trump right-wingers’ reluctant votes. They will only be pressured to not be as bad as republicans if we pressure them by not “voting blue no matter who.”

    • Conservatives straight up are threatening the lives of minority groups and LGBTQ on an entirely different scale than democrats and life for me as a minority living in the US has gotten significantly worse since trump.

      Democrats have been in power in that time! Dems are complicit!

      What do they actually, materially, do? Do they just talk about protection without following through?

      It is idealistic to just not vote or vote for some 3rd party that never wins while real shit has been ramping up for people like me from the republican side (and yes I know Dems do it too and are also bigoted racists but again Republicans do it on a whole nother scale).

      Voting does not stop anything. It is not important.

      I'll still do it, some, but it doesn't stop what's coming for all of us.

      The Dems just want donations, they don't want to help anyone.

      • They materially exist to at least slow down the more extreme racist and bigoted narratives and policies being pushed by Republicans. If democrats didn't exist and this nations as purely Republicans we would be seeing the LGBTQ community being thrown in camps already.

        Let's go with your theory that voting doesn't stop or alleviate any issues. Republican power has only been growing due to worsening conditions, and fascism is preferable to socialism in the eyes of the majority of the brainwashed reactionaries living here. We don't help vote cause "voting doesn't matter" and let Republicans win over and take every seat. The spineless dem will give in and join their side, and now we got a race of who can get more extreme right.

        By the way conservatives are much more likely to vote than disillusioned Democrats. And they will vote in droves for their fascist leaders.

        You already see this in republican circles already where they have really started sliding further right at an unprecedented scale. And just look at all the policies being passed in Florida, it is not looking good.

        Anyone who thinks worsening conditions will lead to a communist revolution over a fascist one is not paying attention to the reactionary preference for fascism in this nation.

        This does not bode well for marginalized communities. You may not give a shit but I do, as my own life has been severely negatively impacted ever since the trump presidency.

        The only people who would have no fear of a republican take over are straight and white.

    • i really thought this was going to end with a /s

      damn

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