We should not let the open web die a quiet death
We should not let the open web die a quiet death
Web 2.0 took off with help from the economic conditions of the 2000s. Recent moves from Reddit and Twitter signal that that era is coming to an end.
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The open Internet was built by grad students and weirdo engineers, in a process involving frequent conflict. HTTP beat Gopher in part because Gopher was owned by a university that wanted to charge money for it. The Internet interprets bullshit that some nerd doesn't like as system damage and routes around it, eventually.
Also: Today's major tech companies succeeded (in part) by being tolerant enough to harness the engineering efforts of queer, trans, furry, fanfic-writing, burner, psychonaut geeks. IBM didn't let you wear cat ears to the office, but Google did. Google is now worth 10x as much money as IBM.
Furiously taking notes: "wear cat ears for money"
Meanwhile I find comfortable reading this on Feddit.
~~Oh no... Oh no... Maybe someday but it's too soon right now, for those still feeling the sharp sting.~~
Nvm, I misunderstood and probably should delete this, but instead will leave it edited like this.
I’m sorry you feel that way. I immediately felt at home on Lemmy. It legit gave me the feelings I had back when I first started using the internet in the mid 90’s. I thought that internet I knew was dead. But it seems a piece of it still lives on.
Consider it a much needed reset.
HTTP beat Gopher in part because Gopher was owned by a university that wanted to charge money for it.
I was not aware of any of this... I'll have to read up on it as it sounds fascinating. So many people are unaware of how things came to be.
Gopher is like very simple and cool. Something similar to Telnet but it's own thing. It's free nowadays btw but ofc nobody uses it.
Gopher and telnet are not the same sort of thing.
Gopher is like the Web. Telnet is like SSH.
Gopher lets you fetch documents and directories off of remote servers that can link to each other. Telnet lets you connect to a remote server as if you had a terminal on that computer.
...me, summer of `93, insisting that the world-wide-web would never catch on when we already have gopher: cut to fifteen years later, i'm hanging out with its author on second life of all places, and yeah, that never really caught on, either...
...open platforms matter...
Yep. Also, the university IT people couldn't convince the engineering professors to switch to encrypted login until instead of Kerberized Telnet, we could offer them SSH which let them manage their own keys as irresponsibly as they pleased.