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[Meta] Admins (not mods) here are already swinging around the content-removal-hammer

Check the modlog for proof, a discussion post about moving this instance to an instance that shan't be named now got removed for "linking to instance featuring pedo content".

Ironically that exact possibility was reason for the discussion in the first place so seeing it happen this quickly is a bit funny.

Not sure how best to go about linking to said instance since it seems to get your content removed. DM's would be the only solution I guess but not sure if those are checked as well.

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  • All they've removed is a post that linked to an instance that they had de-federated from. They haven't really taken off any anime related content from the time I've been here so claiming it's content removal hammer is overblown. I also don't agree with the migration to the other instance. This is the largest anime community by far on lemmy, it's where most new users will migrate to and other than not having access to Shinobu, there has been little to no signs of being censored or anything.

    • In my opinion, the migration is sensible because:

      1. You need to know a topic decently enough to be able to moderate a community about it. And yet it's unreasonable to expect the admins of lemmy.ml - a community about free/open source and privacy - to know about anime.
      2. There's no inherent reason why this comm is the largest anime comm in Lemmy. It's simply that this comm is three years old, from a time when "Lemmy" was mostly just lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml, there was no other place in Lemmy to discuss anime.
      3. Lemmy as a whole benefits from redirecting traffic from larger instances to smaller ones. Specially instances unrelated to politics and tech. In fact, lemmy.ml's admins asked users to use other instances not too long ago.

      • Communities are best served by an instance more tailored to their content. General instances are good and convenient for people new to the platform, but they're dangerous to communities. Think of all the beehaw.org communities that are effectively quarantined from .world users. Not that defederation is wrong, in fact I'm a huge supporter of defederation as a whole. But putting relevant content onto a more relevant instance will ensure that the community will be more likely accessible, broadly, to users regardless of defederation.

        If .ml wishes to not have anime content, that's entirely their prerogative. It's important, then, that anime be moved to somewhere that is is welcome, or else those in the community may find themselves without a community at any given time.

    • People come here because it's big. It's big because people come here.

      What if we went over there? What if we made the one over there big? Big, and entirely under the control of actual fans of anime who don't dismiss the entire medium as porn, I might add. Wouldn't that be better?

      • I think some people have stockholm from how anime communities were treated on reddit and don't realize that they can get a whole lot less censorship than that. I think it's in everyone's best interest if we move this last piece over. The lemmy.ml admins (at least in part) don't want us here and people coming here likely don't want the same bs censorship that was on reddit. Always ducking your head because getting noticed means half the content of the month gets hammered wasn't fun on reddit and if possible I'd like this to be a better experience than that.

    • Actually according to the modlog, some "mod" removed for "Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete • Gushing over Magical Girls - Episode 1 discussion" citing Rule 3 "No Porn"

      I mean the show is risque, but we're starting to see nipples on Hollywood red carpets these days...

      "mod" being in quotes because of the uncertainty elsewhere in this post...

    • They removed a post on Mahoako and a post on Roshidere apparently. And most people sign up for .world anway

    • It really isn't the largest though, maybe by users but certainly not by activity. For example the post about "The Boy and Heron" winning a golden globe got 9 comments on the unspeakable instance and only 2 here. From my own experience posting to both that seems to be the norm.

      Regarding content removal from what I saw in the modlog the most concerning action other than preventing people from talking about alternatives was removing the Alya-san Key Visuals. So that gives you a good baseline of what will get hammered if noticed: pretty much everything.

      The defederation being grounds for removal of all mention is a bit silly but not a discussion I'm willing to go into here as it would be pretty off-topic. I repsect your opinion on the matter but imo it's a very slippery slope to ban talking about something outright.

      To be pretty blunt here closing down here is more a formality than anything really, even just stat wise there are slightly more active users on the other instance and the users there are apparently a lot more engaged in discussion than people here.

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