On day 3 continuing an online argument (on that other site) with someone around the banning of nazi hand gestures in Victoria (in light of the recent court case).
I'm totally for the ban, the other person doesn't believe government should ban body movements and expressions.
My pettiness and stubborn nature will not let this go.
After learning about the atrocities of WWII in school, I never thought I would see real life Nazis, and that they aren't being killed on sight.
I think we should go a step further than banning nazi salutes, we should be allowed to lock up any self-proclaimed nazi. How is it okay?? I used to have dreams about killing Nazis in war, how am I this close to realising those childhood dreams!? Wtf.
Edit: also stopped telling anyone I'm half-German. I school I used to be called Nazi, in not inviting that shit back on myself again bahaha
As in I agree that Germany handles that stuff really well, they shut that crap down so fast.
I get the argument about body movements, but we're not talking about giving someone the middle finger; we're talking about Nazi salutes and the meaning behind the ideology, and how it is evil. It would behoove those Redditors to comprehend the difference.
I sometimes think we donβt do enough to stop things from happening.
They can ban it all they want but people keep doing it and I assume because thereβs not much of a penalty and lack of consequences associated with it.
I would like to see more severe punishments for doing it or displaying things like that.
It was an absolutely horrible era in history and see them backing those atrocities is awful.
I havenβt been kept up to date with things but I there are some white supremacy groups and nazi groups in Victoria that I was made aware of and I wouldnβt mind seeing them behind bars myself to be honest.
Group like that shouldnβt really exist.
Iβm all for preserving history and records but not as a living embodiment with groups like that.
It's the standard playback of 'you're being unreasonable' and they can go choke on their own arses. They're fucking nazi cosplay wankers throwing seig heils and they can get fucked.
Both good points. It's hard to know what somebody's beliefs would be when they pass so young.
It's an interesting thought experiment, would the red Baron subscribed to Nazism because of the environment (his boss), or would he have been against that ideology?
Edit: his granddaughter is apparently a piece of work tho lol
Um, a Freiherr from Silesia is only marginally Prussian I think, albeit one of 'ancient' lineage. Could well be wrong about that. Also, RB could well have kicked back against Goering who was a real piece of work even before Nazism. Might even have succeeded due to hero status with the general public of Germany. Much more liked and admired than Goering. As you said, we'll never know for certain sure. Which is probably a good thing.