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There is no progressive party in the US

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  • I just can't really parse this considering that Republicans want to do things like eliminate the entire EPA and tried 60 times just in the past several years to cancel health care for people like me. Dems would get a hell of a lot more done if Republicans didn't reflexively block anything at all they try to do.

    • The Rise and Fall of the Neoliberal Order by Gary Gerstle:

      https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/92993192-the-rise-and-fall-of-the-neoliberal-order-america-and-the-world-in-the

      A political order must have the ability to shape the core ideas of political life. It must be able to do so not just for one political party’s most ardent supporters but for people located across the political spectrum. The New Deal order sold a large majority of Americans on the proposition that a strong central state could manage a dynamic but dangerous capitalist economy in the public interest. The neoliberal order persuaded a large majority of Americans that free markets would unleash capitalism from unnecessary state controls and spread prosperity and personal freedom throughout the ranks of Americans and then throughout the world. Neither of these propositions today commands the support or authority that they once possessed. Political disorder and dysfunction reign. What comes next is the most important question in the United States, and the world, now face.

      Capitalism has already killed us all. https://www.ecowatch.com/planetary-boundaries-ocean-acidification-climate-science.html

      We've already died, just waiting for the last gasps of society, and yes it's been the Democrat's fault too. Like the time they gave Trump the 2016 election because they didn't want Bernie to win, and in court admitted they did not have to have impartial elections. I will never forget watching Debbie Wasserman-Schulz's testimony and I unregistered as a Democrat because of it. There are SERIOUS problems in the Democratic party. Not least because they adhere to capitalism and neoliberalism. Which again, has literally extincted almost our whole planet.

      https://www.worldwildlife.org/stories/what-is-the-sixth-mass-extinction-and-what-can-we-do-about-it

      Even if they had full power, the Dems will put forth capitalist policies that will make things worse. Their platform is explicitly capitalist and this has been confirmed by partly leadership Nancy Pelosi. Capitalism is directly the cause of our planet's death. At least they weren't as shitty as the Republicans though? Like yes obviously Kamala is the better choice to Trump, but in terms of preventing mass death, neither have adequate policies. Just one is less bad in many ways and good in other ways.

      • That's understood, and what is your practical solution for that? Sweeping political and economic revolution is unlikely to come to the US anytime soon. In the meantime, we have one party that denies that climate change exists at all and one party that acknowledges it is real. Also, this is the usual "I'm so leftist" thing where you spent several paragraphs criticizing the Democratic party without saying a single thing about the horror of Republicans.

        • My practical solution is to acknowledge and talk about these issues, and to not gaslight people bringing up their real concerns. The only way we can effect change is through communication.

          Why would I need to discuss Republican issues at length here when no one is disagreeing that they are bad, no one is arguing that they aren't bad? In my orevious comment, I literally state "Kamala is obviously better than Trump." We all know. Had a Republican told me that they are better than Dems, I would've argued with them too. Go ahead and make that argument if you want and I'll refute it, but it's a waste of our time since we both already agree there.

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