I've always felt that Oneplus is a brand that I should like on principle of having clean software with barebones but powerful hardware, but in reality, every single Oneplus phone I've seen always had some sort of big BUTs attached to them, so buying Oneplus always feels like settling.
Take the Oneplus One for example, that sandstone textured cover was THE most creative material I felt a phone could have had, and I'm honestly shocked nobody has ever done it again. But along with that of course, comes with the cringy "smash your phone" marketing campaign, the half-hearted attempt to distance themselves from their parent company Oppo, the whole software mess with CyanogenMod/OxygenOS, etc.
Had a Oneplus 3T for a while, same deal: Great phone when it works as intended, but they raised their price without making the phone better, and the inexplicable random restarts/battery drain is so irritating, never had another phone that does that.
Recently they've dropped all pretense of not being Oppo and abandoned their core audience, choosing to have the "courage" to drop the headphone jack. Mediocre Chinese phones with flagship specs are a dime a dozen, I just don't see a reason to buy them anymore.
They used to be great value, good specs for affordable prices, then slowly turned into premium shit when they got more popular. Same happening with Nothing now.
Exactly that, they were great until 4 or 5, I think. Then they became premium. It's kinda a version of enshittifcation for hardware makers: Pander to enthusiast community at the start, get some marketshare and mindshare, then go premium and raise prices, abandoning the original group of fans.
Used to be high spec and a low price. Now they're average spec and an above-average price.
Nowadays phones are all pretty similar in price and spec, so I'd rather get a slightly more expensive phone from a company with proven, accessible warranty.
All tech is great when it works all the time. The problem is what happens when it stops working. Can you contact them? Where do you send it for repair? How long does that take? All that sort of thing.
I have a Samsung at the moment and have had Samsung's for 6 or 7 years. I've only had minor issues with a few of them, and I've been able to visit a Samsung retailer / service centre to actually get them looked at in person.
So, proven reliability for my experience and ability to get it looked at in person is something that means I'm happy to pay more for the phone than I would be for other brands.
I had a few Oneplus phones, but the 7 pro was my last of theirs. the 5 and 7 pro were phenomenal phones and the 7 pro is still one of my favorites phones ever. That being said, I didn't like the direction they were going and the full merge with Oppo so that oneplus phones are basically stripped down version of Oppo phones, just soured me to them completely. Then you have their non-existent customer service reputation and they've been put on my list to avoid.
I was a huge fan of Oneplus, but will not buy any of their products again
Agreed on the OP 7 Pro being pretty great, up until the last major android update that kind of killed it. I ended up having to switch it over to the Pixel Experience ROM for stability reasons.
You summed up my feelings on OnePlus perfectly. There was a time I liked their phones (purely because they offered great hardware and a barebones Android experience) but then their devices progressively got worse in every single way. Now, not a single one of their overpriced phones is worth buying.
Most of the OnePlus series, including older models, is fully supported by LineageOS, and unlocking the bootloader is straightforward. That were the most important reasons for me to go OnePlus.
For me and my family there was nothing else comparably easily supported by Lineage with a good price/performance ratio. We currently use 6T and 8T models, that we bought used. The only downside for me is the lack of a notification light.
Have a Oneplus 7 Pro, first Oneplus phone I've owned and it will be the last. Absolutely love the phone itself, but Oneplus as a company, the software they package, the warranty issues, and the direction they've gone as a value pick have all fallen off a cliff since it was produced, and have turned me off to ever upgrading to one of their newer models. That's fine for me though, I have replacement parts on-hand, and a third-party actually maintained rom, so I'm OP7P until the wheels fall off this thing.
Edit: Can't comment with experience on other OP phones, but I've heard very good things about the 6s, it was my second pick when I was looking for a phone at the time.
7Pro with the popup cam and no notch is the perfect layout.
My previous OP 5T had easier singlehand use, a handy notification LED and was without the silly curved screen edges
7Pro is still a sweet phone today, but is the last one designed with the original company ethos.
I'll roll with this one as long as possible and then look at battery replacement and LineageOS to really make it shine.
I'm still running my 7pro and it's been solid for years until a few days ago. For some reason it randomly stops detecting the sim and loses mobile data. It eventually works again after a few reboots but I don't think I can live with that so I'm probably going to have to finally replace it. It's really disappointing how OnePlus turned out, and that the stupid front camera notch has become ubiquitous.
They have good hardware, but their software is—or, at least, feels—unreliable. With so many digital interactions virtually expecting to be done from a mobile device these days, the last thing I want is for the phone to glitch and give up on me when I need it. Yes, customization is nice, but these days I value reliability much more than that, even more than performance in some respects. Unfortunately, that mostly leaves Samsung and Apple as options for "reliable" software...
Their software was great until 2023, an update really fucked up my one plus 7 pro experience. Luckily i already switched to Samsung. I don't know about the newer one plus devices and how their software works on them though.
I really loved the one plus software until 2023, honestly the best, i even considered getting another one plus devices instead of Samsung but Samsung had better hardware
So short answer, I really love them but I'm keeping a cautious eye on their choices.
Full disclosure, this is coming from my OP11, so I'm a little bit biased, but this is absolutely the best phone I've ever had. And mind you, my previous phone was the OP7Pro which is an incredible device that STILL works like new after 3 years. So personally, they've been good to me.
However, I am keeping a close eye on their OS and software decisions. I was a little hesitant about this phone at first. The Android 11 OxygenOS was perfect on my OP7Pro. I upgraded to 12 (their merger with ColorOS if I'm not mistaken) and it was just a mess. For the first time since buying it, my OP7Pro had random bugs and stuttering. I immediately reverted to Android 11 and it was back to perfect. Unfortunately, the OP7Pro will no longer receive updates, so if I wanted to try the newest OxygenOS, I needed to upgrade.
OP11 starts with OxygenOS 13 and is slated to receive 5 years of updates, which is awesome for longevity. Some of the decisions they made after the terrible OxygenOS 12 (many changes to the OS, releasing the OP11 as the only flagship without a Pro later in the year, etc.) gave me hope that they recognized their mistakes and were willing to fix them. I decided to give them another shot and got the OP11 in April.
The software is still missing a few (minor) things I liked from OxygenOS 11, but Android 13 makes up for it with some interesting features. And this might be an unpopular opinion, but I actually like what they're doing with the OxygenOS 13 skin. It's hard to describe since there are a lot of small things I probably noticed unconsciously, but I haven't had any bugs and it's been a dream with this device. I do feel like they're listening to their customers again, and trying to get back on our good sides.
In the past I've been burnt by Samsung and LG, but OnePlus hasn't ever let me down (except that atrocious OxygenOS 12, but again, I skipped it). So long as they keep making the effort to listen to their customers and keep pushing the changes/additions we want to see, I'll keep buying their devices and running their OS. Of course if I see a repeat of 12 with OxygenOS 14, I honestly might bail. 12 was so bad I'm never doing that again.
I realize this is kind of rambly, so please let me know if you want me to clarify anything.
So I'm not sure if I'm the best person to be giving their opinions as I've used only OP phones for the last 3 years, so the things I like might be standard android these days. Also, rereading my comment I sound like an OP fangirl, so feel free to disregard my comments.
I love their aesthetic. I like the "bubbly" feel to the UI, the font, color choices, etc. I think they're very snazzy. I also love the customization features, specifically the launcher editing UI (it's stupid intuitive), the AOD options, they have their own creepy animoji thing that I kind of love, the transition animations are smooth, and it's cohesion in general is excellent.
It all feels like it belongs together. I have a hard time determining where "standard android" and OxygenOS begin/end. It just feels nice to use and I love leaving my phone faceup just to look at it. It's hard to identify exactly what I love because I haven't been keeping a list or anything, but just this morning I was moving some apps around and between folders and it just did exactly what I wanted in a way my old phones definitely wouldn't. Small, but really exciting in the moment.
Of course, these are all very little things that might not be enough for other folks, but the little things are usually what delight me most. I'm also not a bank, so this phone is absolutely the most expensive thing I own and I try to appreciate it when I can.
I will say, there are things that OP will need to change. For me, things like icon customization and notification dismissal direction need updated. But these are extremely low on my list, so I don't mind it as it is.
I want to add that the hardware on this device alone is worth it to me. It's a beast and the battery is fabulous.
Anyway, I'll stop gushing haha. I didn't realize how much I like it until now. I know these devices aren't for everyone so this is my own opinion. I'm also writing this on my commute so I feel like it isn't coming across as clearly as I'd like. I hope that helped a bit though.
I'm using OP6 and for 2023 it's rocking like a brand new phone. Everything works exactly as I want and I rooted and installed AOSP 13 so I'm pretty much up to date, about the new ones I'm not quite sure what to say; far as I heard the new OnePlus is Nothing Phone
Got an OP6 back in 2019 and definitely has that new phone energy. Sadly I suffer from LinusDropItis and so my phone has developed a cracked corner that is now essentially a crack in the corner of my heart.
Thinking about 11, but would rather stick with OP6 until the battery or screen goes. This warrior has lasted me longer than my last 3 phones combined.
Carl Pei was 1/2 of the Oneplus founder's team together with Pete Lau. He left Oneplus/OPPO in 2020 and announced Nothing Phone in 2021. I just had my hands on a Nothing (1) a couple days back, and I really wanna like it, but the lights just seem too strange for me.
Honestly same, Nothing Phone looks amazing in photos but irl? I don't know men, I don't like alien lights at 3 am from Twitter but in the spectrum of new design, improvements and specifications per-total it's something new
Got the 6 as well in 2018, and it also works like new. Honestly not sure what to get if it dies on me. Most modern $500 phones I've looked at have weaker specs.
I don't like them. I think they are trying to be Apple and I hate that because it means higher prices, fewer features. No headphone jack, no SD card slot, no dual SIM, high prices.
That's not meant to be the Android way. Android is all about choice and options. That's what I love about Sony, and why I have a Sony Xperia 10iii - they give you more: award winning design, sleek form factor, fantastic cameras, headphone jack, SD card slot, dual SIM, waterproofing, easily removable SIM tray, notification LED, battery care, long battery life, great OLED screen, NFC, HiRes audio on wired and wireless, MP3 upscale to improve music quality on MP3 tracks, great video recording (up to 4K on mine), support app built in, fast stock launcher will little bloat. I'm even a fan of the dedication Google Assistant button and use it all the time.
And the price was great because I got it on sale for just €350.
That's how Android should be: options, choice, value for money
Edit: I forgot to mention that Sony allows unlocking the bootloader if you want to install other ROM's like Sailfish, Lineage etc
Ditto on that lol. I have the oneplus 11. Bought it right when it came out.
The camera is pretty good. I actually like the in screen fingerprint sensor. The rest of the phone is pretty trash. The UI changes they did feel, wrong. I don't even know how to describe it. My unihertz looks better.
The biggest sin of oneplus tho, is nearly unfunctional bluetooth. It's constantly dropping out on me. Android auto doesn't work half the time. I used it for about 3 months and went back to my sony
Is it just me that reads "award winning design" and instantly mentally classifies a post as "likely marketing"?!
WTF is the value for a customer if their phone's design has received awards?
I mean, does any genuine human out there choose the looks of their phone based on the awards it got rather than, you know, personally likeing said looks???!
I stopped reading out of habit as soon as I got to the "award winning design" and "form factor". Such marketing buzzwords are usually a good sign telling me that part of the text has no valuable information and should be skipped.
I hadn't even noticed this habit and I have no idea when it started. I wonder what other subconscious reading optimizations I've made, and how they might impact the type of information I read without me realizing it...
I have owned the OnePlus 2 and 6 and was very happy with them. Value/performance was pretty good and I never had any problems. Their recent direction made me go back to Samsung though and getting an a52
I appreciate they have unlocked bootloaders. Now that I'm comfortable upgrading my old phones with the latest Android and security updates I'll never buy another phone that doesn't let me unlock the bootloader like Samsung. It's why I replaced my Note.
Unlocked bootloader is key. The aftermarket ROMs are unfortunately kinda limited, but I think its important that this option remain open. You don't own a computer if you can't load your own code. Fortunately the Pixel series also has unlocked bootloaders.
I will never buy another Samsung, Apple, or carrier specific device due to the annoying locked down bootloaders.
My 5T has been my daily driver for years. I've replaced the battery & USB port on it once so far, and that's it. I've also run LineageOS (rooted + Magisk) since day 1, which I agree is its own set of challenges. Seriously no complaints and I'm not really shopping for anything more right now.
If the Fairphone 5 specs are solid I may take the plunge, but for my needs nothing else out there has been compelling enough to make a change.
Do you have a problem that they're "just Oppo" now? I bought an Oppo phone on a bit of a whim when my last phone died and I'm a bit of a convert. The software is great - clean, unobtrusive and full of useful features, the weird features can be disabled. I even switched from Nova back to the default Oppo launcher and it's fine, certainly not as configurable and I don't like how the inbuilt search recommends store apps, but it's perfectly cromulent.
Given my experience with Oppo I'd have no qualms about choosing Oppo or OnePlus as my next phone. RealMe, BBK's other brand, I'd need to research first as their value proposition seems even more insane than Oppo...
I don't have a problem with them being Oppo, Oppo makes good products. (BTW, I'm still mad Oppo NA shut down so there's nowhere to get a new HA-2SE or PM-1 now) What I have a problem with is that 1+ was trying so hard to pretend to NOT be Oppo at first.
The Pixel 6a would be a good upgrade for the camera, but the downside is it's overall a lower end phone than the OP 7 Pro. I've heard the Pixel 7 series has some bad fingerprint reader issues.
I haven't looked too heavily into the newer Oneplus phones, so it's entirely possible there are some good ones, they have released quite a few since the 7 Pro.
My friend recommended the brand saying he never had a problem with it and it was as fast as the day he got it. My wife got one because her Pixel 3 died (apparently a relatively common thing for that model). Then after my wife got one my friend started complaining about his phone and my wife didn't like her new phone. Then he got a pixel lol. Then I got one. It's a nice phone. The Pixel 3 was my wife's favorite before it died. So 2 years later we ditched the one plus for a new Pixel for her.
It seems like one plus used to be a good brand and maybe my friend had some loyalty still or his phone coincidentally started to slow down right after he recommended it lol
I am only slightly better than a "casual" user in terms of Android phones. The most I've done is flash LineageOS on my phone. I think smartphones have reached the pinnacle for users like me. Like TVs I'm really wondering where smartphones could possibly go from here. As long as all the apps work and the battery can last a full working day I don't think I'll be replacing my 8T any time soon.
If there's one thing I'd be looking for it would be Android's answer to iMessage. But that ball is in Google's court. Ideally it would be an open protocol, preferably they would just adopt something that already exists, like Matrix Chat.
I just moved away from my 7T onto a Pixel 7. I love my 7T. It was definitely my favorite phone. But it seems like things have changed lately and the newer OnePlus phones aren't what they used to be. I still use my 7T as a game and media player for when I'm chilling in bed.
Fully agree. I still have my 7T Pro, and I'm not looking forward to upgrading it when I have to! I loved when it was a simple upgrade on base android, but with the newer versions, it has veered away from that. I'm disappointed with the updates - I haven't done the latest update as lots of people are complaining that it's very buggy, and it doesn't look like they are going to update it again.
I don't think I'd go for a OnePlus again - I'd probably go with something more stock, with hopefully more reliable updates, like a Pixel.
I did a similar 7 pro to 7 pro (OnePlus to Pixel) move. It was striking how much better the camera is, and at this point I'd be hard-pressed to go back to OnePlus. I had a OnePlus 3 before the 7 Pro and it also had a crummy camera. The Pixel software experience also feels a little more polished (but only just) and the voice recognition absolutely wipes the floor with the OnePlus.
I had a 6T and really liked it. Got an 8 Pro about the day they disabled the Photochrom filter. That really disappointed me, not because it had "X-ray" capability, but because it was an IR sensor and I was excited to see a world I couldn't see with my visible light spectrum eyes. OS updates seemed to degrade things. I hope their foldable serves them well, but I'm not even considering it since I don't think they could make a good multitasking OS. We'll see when they announce it.
I got a OnePlus Nord. I think they are pushing too many phones. They do like Xiaomi, they announce a phone, it doesn't even have time to arrive in the stores that a new one is already announced. This is confusing as they need to resort to ridiculous naming like "OnePlus Nord 2 ce lite se 5g". Stores can't hold 100 identical phones that are differing only in the name. The store where i bought my Nord, dropped OnePlus entirely because "we already carry Oppo, vivo, realme, it's the same brand"
And this reflects also in the updates. They can't possibly continue to send updates with this many phones.
I like to get a phone that gets at least 3 years of updates, but in total for the bbk group it means supporting and testing 400 phone models at the same time? They have thousands of employees but they're not enough , what happens is that software development is basically dropped as soon the new model comes out
Why can't they do like Apple??? Just three phones per year. Easier to market, easier to support...
The Chinese market is hyper-competitive and Chinese consumers are feature maximalists, which means if you are not Apple, you better push out a new model before your competitors, otherwise you're going to fall behind.
Man I loved the sandstone back on the OnePlus One. That was the only phone I'd ever used without a case for the entire time I had it. I also had a 3T and my dad currently has a 7. The 3T's camera stopped focusing after a couple of years and I had to replace the USB port on the One.
I haven't really kept up with phones that much recently (my Note 9's going strong still after a battery replacement, lol) so I don't really know much about OnePlus' current offerings.
I had a oneplus 6 and really liked it. I am also getting a oneplus nord n200 in a few weeks to replace my dying moto. I will be flashing LineageOS which is mainly why i chose it.
I'm still on a OnePlus 3 (literally replying on it).
I like that I can just unlock the bootloader and flash LineageOS without any artificial restrictions. It gets annoying having to look for specific models of Moto that van be unlocked or hoping the one I get from Amazon is actually not from a carrier. OnePlus is pretty much a safe bet.
Looking for a successor before this one gives up the ghost. Lol
Carl Pei started the "Nothing" Phone, I felt that the backlight was gimmicky, but want to remain cautiously optimistic that he can finally do what he wanted now that he's not at Oppo anymore.
My OnePlus 6 is just short of 4 full years of use, with LineageOS of course. It's been great and I'd keep it for another few years if I were able to buy a new, genuine replacement battery; all the vendors I see offering one are dubious. The OP6 has excellent hardware for the price I paid for it back in 2019, excellent software thanks to LineageOS support, all while having Dual SIM/microSD (shared slot, used for second SIM by me) and a headphone jack. Earlier, my daily driver was a OnePlus X which I was also happy with for the same reasons. Now that 4 years of battery wear are pushing me towards replacement, I will jump ship only because newer OnePlus phones have impractical display aspect ratios, way too long and narrow for my needs; I consider a phone's display to be as good as the largest 16:9 rectangle that can fit into it.
I had a OnePlus 3t. The power button stopped working in the end, but it lasted a good five years and was fast enough, even at the end. The camera was awful from the beginning though. Like you say tough, the prices now are nothing special.
I had a OnePlus One, and a 5, and I'm currently rocking a 9Pro. Fantastic phone, great photos, I don't mind OxygenOS. The only problem I have is because it's not supported by carriers in Canada (had no problems in the US), VoWIFI can be flaky which sucks.
I used to be a big fan of OP, but when updates started getting months behind and when they arrived they were buggy as hell and my phone became more and more unusable, I switched to a Pixel 7.
OnePlus 6T: had it for 1.5 years and sold it because it had some weird bugs (can't remember exactly which).
OnePlus 8T: had it for almost 2 years. Updated to Android 12, was shit after few weeks. Factory reset to 11, used that a long time. Updated to 12 for a a few days and then to Android 13. Was alright but again a few bugs. Factory reset it again a few (staying on Android 13). Later Factory reset it to Android 11.
I have factory reset it 5 times in 1 the last year i had the OnePlus 8T.
And despite the many factory resets, every few days had a bug where it became so slow it wasn't useable anymore and had to reboot.
Short story: OnePlus had a lot of potential and I bought a OnePlus 6T for the price and the good software support they had in 2018. I feel a little betrayed because they became so worse over the few years I had my OnePlus phones.
I now have a Samsung S23 Ultra which has good software support and yes it has some bloat. But i don't have stupid bugs and the phone stays fast.
I'm typing this from a 6t. No complaints with it so far, it's far enough in that I need to replace the battery but that's to be expected. The 6gb of ram has proved to be really helpful in ensuring that things always work and the dual sim has let me combine the work and personal phones into one.
I know it's long in the tooth so if anyone has some recommendations for a replacement that has dual sim and doesn't cost an arm and a leg please reply!
I've had my OP8 5g UW since release. Flashed LineageOS for Microg as soon as the bootloader got cracked. Pretty happy with it and will keep it a few more years most likely. The only issue is Verizon abandoned it on Android 11, but that's Verizon's fault.
Great thread. I'm currently on a OP8 and it's done me alright, but my screen broke a few months ago so I'm gonna hijack this thread to ask for The Best Phone on the market under 1k right now. Ideally cheap (and rootable).
I currently have a 7T. It's not bad. Felt pretty impressive at the time that I got it. These days I feel like the camera is a bit lacklustre and every now and then something freezes. I'm gonna upgrade to something else soon. Probably something much higher end as I'm more comfortable spending money on a high end phone these days. But it's been a pretty solid phone, especially for its price and age.
Happy with mine. I had a 6, then had an 8 Pro for the last 3 years and literally just a week ago got the 11. People complain about this, that, the other but none of it bothers me. I like the software, I like the hardware.
I've had the 3t for a couple of years until the 6t came out and I'm still using that to this day. I've been happy with both of them, the 6t still works well and although e.g. the camera isn't the greatest I have no intention of getting another phone until this one is completely dead.
That said, I wouldn't buy a newer models since the pricing policy and the move away from their former principles made them a mediocre phone amongst many and I would definitely get a Pixel next if I had to.
Using 6T as well. Put LineageOS because of OS not updated anymore but i'll really make it so the device end until the batterie die. In a hardware point of view, except the camera everything stand still.
I am also curious whats considered 'good' these days for android phones and why. I have been lucky in a way that my current job pays for my phone entirely and Ive been with them a long time. Ive been thinking more and more that I should get my own phone to fully split my personal and work stuff but Ive been out of this game so long I dont know what to even look for.
I had a OnePlus 3T that lasted me 4 years. It served me well and I liked the design on hardware and software, but my biggest complaint was their way too overly aggressive killing of background apps. I remember numerous times where I would be listening to music and if I switched to another app it would kill my music after a few minutes. I guess it helped on battery benchmarks but the usability really suffered.
And by the time I was ready to get a new phone, they were just as expensive as everyone else without a clear vision or distinction to set them apart. I had also heard too many support issues to feel comfortable spending that much on a phone compared to the other options, so they ended up losing me as a repeat customer.
I remember being so excited after getting my 3T to introduce people to OnePlus as a great performance/software/price combo since they still weren’t that well-known outside of enthusiast communities at the time, and I was disappointed to see the direction they’ve ended up going.
Rocking a 5T for more than 5 years now, and still quite satisfied with it.
Before this phone I usually changed them every 2 years or so, but with this, I don't feel the need. Not saying I'm not tempted, and I did have to change battery and usb port midway, but other than that, it's a great device.
Looking at their price changes I'm not sure I would buy from their recent line of products though.
I had a oneplus 3t, 5, 6t, 9 and 10. By the 10, I felt like they'd lost everything that made them great. OxygenOS was great when it was it's own thing. Their attempt to merge os's hasn't been very good.
Yeah, while it makes economic sense for Oppo to focus their development on just one user experience, ultimately different markets just want different things.
I've never owned one. I've been on Nexii and Pixels for the past 10 years. I was very close to buying a 7 Pro or 7T Pro - I really liked the idea of a popup camera and an edge to edge display with no cutouts (I rarely use the front camera of a phone and I was kind of annoyed that everyone jumped ship to displays with notches or holes); sadly, they abandoned that design in the 8 series. I generally like that they're still liberal about the software (unlocking the bootloader and so on) and would definitely consider them in the future.
I agree with your assessment. I never had a OP phone, but they seemed like solid mid-range choices at the start. I did consider picking up a used on recently, but it would have been for installing LineageOS on it. I wouldn't trust the default software that comes on the phone like any Chinese phone.
The problem with all the Chinese phone software is the bloat they came with, and ironically some of the third-party phone brands that are best for Lineage and comes with the least amount of bloat are Oneplus and Motorola.
They had some really good phones but I don't think I'd get one now unless it was really compelling. The last one I had was the 8 Pro and I liked it a lot, used it for a year and a half maybe and then jumped back to Pixel.
I really liked my Oneplus 8T for about 90% of the time I had it. Liked the look, good size, felt well built with that glass back, but then it just completely became unusable in the span of about three months. Definitely in "good" phone territory, but am a little hesitant to get another device.
A lot of friends of mine have OnePlus for a reason, but I have personally stayed away since the data collection scandal in 2017 (https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/10/11/16457954/oneplus-phones-collecting-sensitive-data). I don't trust Chinese phones in general very much because the government can force data collection very quickly but this is documented behavior by the company. I understand why developers use telemetry but everything but the most basic stuff should be opt in.