Bluesky sees record signups day after Musk says X will go paid-only
Bluesky sees record signups day after Musk says X will go paid-only
The day isn't even over yet Bluesky has already seen its biggest influx of new users in a single-day
Just around 24 hours after Musk made his comments, more than 42,000 new users joined Bluesky, making it the biggest signup day yet for the currently invite-only platform that launched earlier this year.
Bluesky saw a total of 53,585 new signups by the end of Tuesday, September 19. The new users gained in that single day make up 5 percent of the platform's entire user base of 1,125,499 total accounts.
The new user signups are tracked via the third-party website "Bluesky Stats." Looking over Bluesky signup numbers on the tracker for the past month, it appears that the platform usually sees from 10,000 to 20,000 new signups per day. Bluesky has doubled its usual daily new user numbers already, with many more hours left in the day still to go.
It's impossible to know whether Musk's comments about charging users to post on X really played a role in this, but it almost certainly had some effect.
Great another social media platform from the same fart huffing dumb asses that sold Twitter... it's like people don't learn lessons.
Americans be like "I like fascism I just don't like THIS fascism"
FYI jack isn't in control of the site and in fact even deleted his account after the userbase mocked him hard enough, he's all in on nostr now
Also it has federation in testing in a sandbox environment open to external developers, it will work similarly to Mastodon in that regard
"Mr Dorsey, ypur new platform is picking up, people are starting to use it"
"... I'm bored"
"Excuse me?"
"I don't want to have a social platform. I just want to make them" *Starts to leave*
"Mr. dorsey? Where are you going? Jack!?"
"Federation", yeah...
it will work similarly to Mastodon in that regard
Nope, it works more similar to MTProto for Telegram.
I love that I mentioned fart huffing and you automatically assumed I meant Jack.
I learned today that you'd have to be confined in a small room with approximately a year's worth of farts before you risk asphyxiation.
Not my farts, that'd only take about a month
TIL
isn’t bluesky invite only?
Each current member usually get at least one invite to share biweekly. That’s how they have been growing it.
So, in the shape of a pyramid? Sounds like a good business model. I wonder if anyone has ever done that before? (yes, it's a joke)
It says that in the first sentence
lol they didn’t even bother reading the lemmy description. 😂
Yes, that's part of what's surprising about the number.
Yes but I'm sure many recorded invites and didn't bother. Musk musking TSFKAT ( the-site-formerly-known-as-twitter) was the needed motivation to accept it.
I didn't bother and was gonna give it a walk around. Downloaded but can't access without an invite.
Invite only is a fascinating choice for a social network that requires network effect to succeed.
Gmail is the most famous/successful example but interesting to note that email is a federated network that can interoperate with every other email address too.
What about this bluesky network?
I wonder why people aren’t going for mastodon.
Mastadon (and the Fediverse in general, to some extent) has problems with discoverability and the average user finds federation confusing. People tend to either use microblogging to see what's going on with people they're interested in or to broadcast their activities to a large group of people, and Mastadon currently doesn't fit that niche very well.
Pretty much this. It's why I love it for my use case (microblogging journal that only I can see), but it's definitely not for everyone else.
It's why if your average influencer or news consumer wants a Twitter alternative, it's likely Threads or perhaps BlueSky, not Mastodon.
The same reason people aren't going for Lemmy.
Aside from the fact that the Fediverse is an incredibly confusing concept to the average user, those same users are entrenched and connected to everyone they already want to be connected to on the same platform. Until they are essentially forced to move, they'll stay on Twitter. The people on Lemmy and Mastodon right now are a tiny but vocal minority compared to the massive userbases of the platforms they abandoned.
Yeah there really needs to be a rethink of how the Fediverse works.
I don't want to have to subscribe to 8 different "Games" subs each with under 3000 users.
It really should be like "topics" more than "sublemmys" (or whatever) where every post on the Fediverse tagged "games" will appear on your feed when you subscribe to the topic.
The topics still get moderated by the local instance topic moderators and instances can defederate from troubled instances, but discoverability would improve exponentially.
Aside from the fact that the Fediverse is an incredibly confusing concept to the average user
How did the average user ever figure out email?
I'm on there, but I use Twitter and mastodon as a follower, I don't post. So until most of the 40ish people I follow move I'm stuck with Twitter if I want to see their posts. And I do.
depending on how popular the user is on Twitter, you may be able to follow them on Mastodon via https://bird.makeup/. I use it to follow things like larger content creators, NHL teams, stuff like that.
different features and scalability
I was interested in it but at the end of the day Dorsey got Twitter into its initially mediocre state, and he's endorsed RFK Jr. as well as Musk's purchase of Twitter. So should I really expect it to be any better? I'll keep an eye on it but my expectations aren't terribly high.
and he's endorsed RFK Jr.
Gross. Yeah Dorsey sucks generally.
as well as Musk's purchase of Twitter.
But I don't hold this part against him. If some moron came along and offered to drastically overpay for my house, for example, I'd endorse the fuck out of that even if he's a shitheel.
Of course he's endorsed Musk purchasing Twitter, he made billions off it
I signed up just to see the hype, and it's the same boring Twitter, with less commitment. People just grabbing namespace.
Excuse me, signups on an INVITE ONLY platform?
I firmly believe Elon is trying to run Twitter out of relevancy, or business entirely.
Lose $42 billion speed run challenge
Who holds WR in EU%? You know, where endgame is getting wrecked by anti-monopoly agency.
I agree but I don't understand why. What motivated him to sink 1/4th of his net worth into Twitter then kill it?
The lawsuit he was destined to lose. Why do people here so often act like this was his masterplan all along? He fucked around and tried to back out, then Twitter sued him into buying the company. From what I can tell this is just Musk being Musk, reportedly he has surrounded himself with yes-men.
If that were true, the investors who paid him billions for the take over will want his head on a spike.
The biggest funders are the Saudis, who hate Twitter for the way it allowed communication during The Arab Spring. 42 billion is nothing to them. They want Twitter to die, or be run the way the want it.
I think his Saudi funders are pleased.
As Twitter is a big PR tool for Ukraine he’s again doing Putin a favour.
what the fuck is Bluesky
It’s Jack Dorsey’s “Twitter but federated this time”, except there is only 1 instance, run by Jack…. But don’t worry, “Trust me bro” it will totally be federated/open.
Maybe it will be but until it is it’s just as bad as Twitter.
Always good to see more people looking into platforms besides Twitter, plenty of great places out there
People are so desperate for anything RESEMBLING twitter, that they'll sign up for a trash service like BS.
Mastodon undoubtedly has more brand recognition at this point.
Honestly, before reading this comment I never noticed that BlueSky shortens to BS, lol
I wouldn't hold my breath, 42k out of 528M is nothing
Who is the target audience for BlueSky?BlueSky's tech isn't as open or developed as the alternatives though, is it?Edit:
Not sure why I asked that first question, answer's obvious, so it was more out of frustration I think. Sort of in a similar way towards people moving to Threads or any other corporate social media again after getting screwed before.it's invite only, which first makes you think, "oh cool - no spammers!"
but then you realize you just need one spammer to get in and now they only invite spammers, and control their invites... as a form of spam! Flooding the net with "cheap" invite codes (only $10!) and multiplying.
Invite only makes people think no spammers? Have they never been in any space with minimal obstacles to entry like that? Any place people are, there's going to be someone or some activity you don't care for.
Makes me think of folks thinking there will be fewer annoying people in online games with sub fees. 😂
Invite only is a technique that becomes a hinderance and gimmic after about 100k members.
God I hope he gets gaslit into actually making Twitter a subscription. It would be so funny
I'm starting to suspect he only wanted Twitter to kill it..
It is weird how he's just completely running it into the ground... I don't really buy that though because he never actuslly wanted the company and only bought it because a court forced him to. Also I honestly don't think he'd want to wash 44 big ones down the drain just to own the libs.
All I can think of is that he's just... maybe kind of an idiot and has just gotten lucky so far lol? It's the only thing that fits as far as I can see.
Switch to Mastodon. It's a great alternative.
Strange to measure it against an invite only site, I would love to sign up but I haven’t been able to find invites. I think between Mastodon, Bluesky & Threads via ActivityPub (eventually) will get most of my communities back.
I love Mastodon & prefer it in many ways but there just aren’t enough people there. The tech & dev community is lively, everything else is essentially non-existent.
It's a convenience article. They're just reporting some number they have access to.
And why Threads instead of Mastodon if you belive it will use ActivityPub.
The tech & dev community is lively, everything else is essentially non-existent.
Broners are pretty active there. Biggest instance is equestria.social, some people use or run smaller instances, some use GP instances.
Threads has momentum and easy signups, it’s simple for people. I wouldn’t use it myself directly but I’m sure it would help expand the communities that are available via a Mastodon client.
Bluesky, the "decentralized" X-alternative social media platform
"The" alternative platform?? Shots fired.
Serious question, why would you consider Bluesky? I would argue that mastodon is "the" decentralized social media platform, I mean it's not owned by some billionaire; and if you mostly care about audience size, nothing beats twitter. I've never felt any inclination to try bluesky for these reasons.
And Threads?
Or Mastodon?
https://mastodon-analytics.com/
Although it looks like this is 3 days behind.
I'd bet mastodon saw an increase, but i haven't seen the numbers.
It's also hard to get a good count since it's not centralized. So whatever numbers we do see, could be wildly underreported.
I refuse to touch anything related to Facebook. I'm shocked that people would use Threads or Instagram for that matter.
Not sure if I’m getting suckered into conspiracy theories with regards to Elon, the Saudis, Russia and Twitter but this article has an interesting (albeit extreme) take on the matter.
“No, Elon and Jack are not “competitors.” They’re collaborating.”
https://davetroy.medium.com/no-elon-and-jack-are-not-competitors-theyre-collaborating-3e88cde5267d
Medium is a bad source but there's truth that Bluesky's CEO is a musk toesucker.
Underrated link
100% - Allied partners.
Glad cracker musk is losing money over this, I just wish people wouldn't just jump into the next boiling pot because the current one got too hot.
Huh I wonder why
I want to like it but they refuse to open up the platform still after Twitter keeps handing them opportunity after opportunity and I'm afraid their chances to succeed are going to wane.
They're focusing on scaling and moderation tools that can handle federation better (especially spam management), they don't think that's ready yet. But you can federation it in their sandbox environment
I do wonder how many are bots. Most of Twitter is bots anyway
How do you sign up? I'm on the wait list for about a half year.
Anything in form of competition is good imho.
Yeah, I suspected this would be a real point of no return. Mastodon will also benefit, but naturally the fediverse isn't the first thing people think of. Fortunately, Mastodon has been working on this.
rain is wet. hope they like starting new instances here. feel the fediverse creaking already
Can't say I've felt any such issues. Probably comes down to you being on the biggest instance.
How is it on shakey ground, We may for a while just stay niche but active and high quality.
Maybe they just don't have the infra (and if they still don't, I don't believe they ever will). Turn off invites and make it open-season or shut the whole thing down. It's not a competitor like this.
Scaling is hard. You need time for hard things
I saw a claim that Elon never said that but actually said: we will ad a lower cost tier.
Really liking Bluesky so far, hope it picks up some steam soon. It really is something special and way less confusing (at least for me) than Mastodon.
E: But to add, let's face it, no decentralized platform will ever replace a centralized one unless something major happens. I just don't see the mainstream adopting Bluesky/Mastodon/Nostr unless something incredibly drastic happens. As much as I'd love for Bluesky to get some more steam, it won't at this rate. People want to get on it, but can't.
What's confusing about Mastodon? Just join a random server and you can find everyone else on any other server. (Or are these called 'instances'? I don't know or care, fact is it works without problems.)
Not too surprising.
I’ve been on the waitlist for awhile now. I don’t know anyone on it so I can’t get a code, unfortunately. Wish I was
I have some left, message me if you still need one.
Ooo me please :)
I got an invite from the only person I actually know on it and it's not bad. I'm interested, but still messing around with it to get the most out of it.
Waitlist? Are you in USSR?
Bluesky's really highkey. You need an invite or gotta sit on the waitlist for months to get an account. Real elite stuff.
I like Firefish way better. It has great design and is very positive.
Nostr is the easiest to use decentralized Twitter alternative I've came across.
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Record sign-ups my ass. I just joined today. Sites dead. Dorsey doesn't even have an account there anymore. Jimmy Wales social media site is doing much better albeit way less people.
Jack Dorsey had an account but he got run off for being an anti-vaccine crypto dork. People just mocked him so he left and went to Nostr where his crowd hangs out. (He’s a significant investor in all of the for-profit ones, including Twitter. He doesn’t run any of them day-to-day, though, so there’s not really any reason for him to be on BlueSky socially.)
Lmao I thought it was cause he got bullied by the 196-crowd but that's equally funny. I always figured him to be the Bluesky main guy so it's kinda weird he isnt active on his own site.