Itching to upgrade something, but what?
Itching to upgrade something, but what?
This is mostly just for discussion, but this is my PC's current state. I do want to do a full custom watercooled setup sometime but I'm wondering if anything is screaming out "upgrade me, I'm old". I mostly game and do CAD design/3D printing. Some photoshop and After Effects work every now and then. What would you upgrade?
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Oh, if there's a r/buildapc type community I should post this in, then please let me know. Thanks!
There is a couple of buildapc subs, but they are not very active yet. https://lemmy.one/post/17459 has a good list to wade through and the one listed are:
From what you have 5800x3d is all I would add. That would put you close to what I have. I use a 5950 along with 3800mhz memory, which leaves not much init. I am waiting for Ryzen 5 release before I consider my next update. Early indications are that it will be a tasty piece of kit, but wait for reviews as ever.
https://lemmy.one/post/17459 has a good list to wade through
Oh, awesome, thanks for that! I was looking at the 5800x3d, but it looks like a downgrade to me. Am I missing something? Is the single stacked L3 cache that big of an improvement still even with less cores and lower clock speed?
According to reviewers it comes in just ahead of the 5950 gaming wise. And yes the cache is the big improvement. It is down to the latency improvements the 5800x3d has over the 5950.
For application use where larger chunks of data are feed to the CPU such as video editing, then the 5950 is better because both CPUs have to retrieve the data from the main memory, and thus clock speed wins (as well as the extra cores if they are used). In games though most the data is reused over and over. A large portion stays within the CPU cache system. This is where the latency gains of the 58003xd wins out.
I just installed one in my son's x370 system in January. I couldn't tell you how it fares against mine though. He has far too much crap on his system, and he would not let me spend the time tweaking the memory. It went in without any real issues though. You may need to update the bios to accept Ryzen 5 series CPUs. I would check before stripping your cooler out.
Man, thanks for the detailed post! I'll definitely have to look more into how I'm using my PC nowadays. I still game, but I jump back and forth between the PC and the PS5 a lot. Most of my time is spent in Fusion 360 designing for 3D printing. So I'm not sure about the 5800x3d, but maybe upgrading to a newer generation Ryzen could be in the cards. Either way, I don't want to rush into anything just yet, but you've definitely given me something to think about. Much appreciated!
3d printing is something I know very little about. At a guess I would say the memory usage is minor compared to video editing. Cad can be very intensive with memory use, but 3d printing (to me) seems very simplified by comparison, as you only adjust one shape for the print. Just my twopenneth, as I said no real experience in that area.
as you only adjust one shape for the print
I'm not sure what you mean by this. CAD and 3D printing are two separate processes. You make a design in CAD and then bring that file into 3D printing software (known as a slicer), which converts the model file into a gcode file (basically a list of instructions that the printer interprets for printing) that is given to the printer. The 3D printing part is mostly handled by the printer itself. Slicing the model file is the only part done on the computer. You can also just download files to print and never even use a computer if you don't want to design yourself.
I sometimes download premade files to print, but more often that not I make designs myself in CAD, which I then print. But yes, you are correct in that the 3D printing part isn't memory intensive. But I do a lot of CAD design, which is.
So not memory intensive at all? The benefit of the 5950 is the cores (if utilised by software) and the frequency. Which infers that the 5800x3d would still be your best choice.
The 3D printing part isn't as it doesn't really involve a computer if you don't want to. But if you do CAD design, then yes obviously. The 3D printing slicer software is still 3D software, but you can't do as much as a full blown CAD program.
I use Fusion 360 for CAD design, which uses multiple cores.