[Discussion] Should we defederate exploding-heads.com? (Closing arguments)
[Discussion] Should we defederate exploding-heads.com? (Closing arguments)
Exploding-heads.com is another instance on Lemmy where alt-right MAGA types tend to reside. Some people on this server want us to defederate from them immediately, some people want to save defederation as a last resort. They have 104 active users (more stats below).
It seems that exploding-heads has also experienced a recent botswarm invasion. This is obviously another point in favor of defederating them, assuming you are worried about botswarms, which is currently being discussed here.
My advice to you all is please try to discuss this in a civil manner, we need not allow them to create divisive conflict inside our communities. No matter how the vote turns out, you're not going to be able to defederate from your fellow sh.itheads so be nice.
I've linked many of the previous discussions below so people who are out of the loop can get a general sense of the situation.
https://sh.itjust.works/post/216888 https://sh.itjust.works/post/225714 https://sh.itjust.works/post/281126 https://sh.itjust.works/post/410325
Lemmy.world just recently defederated them.
https://lemmy.world/post/747912
https://lemmy.world/post/577526
Although this could be considered a point in favor of defederation, it actually means even if we vote to remain federated, people have a great alternative in lemmy.world where they can still participate in our communities and simultaneously be protected from exploding-heads.
Ensuring diversity of servers is beneficial to the platform as a whole, but it is also not our responsibility to bear that burden.
TLDR, just wrap up any last points in this thread before we open the vote tomorrow. Please be civil.
EDIT: To clarify, this isn't the official vote, this is the final discussion. The vote thread will be posted tomorrow and you will only be allowed to make a single comment saying Aye or Nay.
EDIT2: Vote thread is up, this thread is now locked. Very lively discussion thread sh.itheads. Please try to be more respectful next time.
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I'm for defederation as well. If I could block an entire instance easily I would, but that isn't an option yet.
If anyone wants to view the content on that instance, make an account. It's easy and free. There is no limit to how many instances you can join if you want to.
Yeah, because doesn't everyone love needing to effectively have an account for every single instance just because some people are lazy asses who don't want to have to curate their own feeds
By the way, pretty funny you're calling people lazy for not wanting to have to individually ban users and communities when you're too lazy to just create an account on another instance 👍
Just join an instance that isn't defederated from any others and enjoy the shit show or create your own instance and enjoy whatever content you want to see.
I joined an instance with a single defederation at the point of joining. This one.
So you agreed that defederation might be required for extremists when you joined, it just so happens that's now that it's the extremists at the other end that might be defederated you're angry?
Yeah, not how it works bud!
PS: Before you say "I believe in free speech and the others shouldn't have been defederated either!" then why join this instance in the first place and why use the fact that only they were defederated when you joined as an argument?
It doesn't have to be an either/or scenario. You can do both. Curate your feed AND make an additional account.
If you need an individual account for each instance you might want to consider why none of your interesting instances want to federate with each other.
Because a bunch of crybabies don't like that pe3are allowed to disagree with them
The only people I see crying here are the ones too lazy to make an account on the instance they consider has the most interesting content.
With the way the Fediverse works defederation is not a big deal. Nothing is being deleted, nothing is being canceled, you can view anything you want to see if you put in the smallest effort.