Barbie: who saw it?
Barbie: who saw it?
Today was the first day that both our kids are in day-care all day. Effectively the end of our parental leave. Me and my SO decided to treat ourselves to a movie and saw Barbie. We figured if the conservative sphere was getting pissy about it, it must be good.
Anyone else see it?
I wasn't expecting much. I have to say, I don't think I could have ever expected this movie to be what it was. It's campy, funny, colorful, and steps on your throat with it's message and hardly let's it off. I say that as positivity as someone can.
It's amusing to me that some people think the movie is anti-man. It did make me feel mournful for my daughters inevitable loss of innocence. A corporate, big budget toy advertisement of all things. I think that's the most surprising part. In some ways Barbie is the most unlikely and perfect vehicle for what the movie has to say.
I don't know. It's conflicting because, at the end of the day it's a huge corporate puff peace, but also... What else could deliver it's message to so many people?
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Imho, the Barbie movie is the biggest trojan horse in cinema history. It has nothing that resembles anything "barbie" done previously. For good or bad, it is a success and noone can argue but just think about how many mothers/fathers didn't even think of the age rating of the movie and took their kids to watch a highly politicised story. As it is with many things in life, there's a time and a place for everything, imo, and this sort of approach to ideologies is becoming more and more like religions, where they target the young. Aside from what I personally think about the movie, I don't want my kids to have to worry about politics or anything other than living their lives as kids, innocent and joyful and that we as parents will keep on working in the background to keep them safe and fed and loved, that's it. Being a parent is hard, I tell ya...
Lol man, every women I know has a story about being sexualized by an adult man when they were a child. Every, single, one. None of these men were considering wether it was the time and the place to shatter their innocence. That seems like more of a real threat then the "ideologies" of the Barbie movie.
I'm sorry to hear that. I was referring to kids though, not teens.
I'll back up the previous commenter. Every single woman i know was sexualised by adult men as children. Children, not teens. Like 6-7 onwards was the first I remember personally. Prepare them. Yes you want them to have that perfect childhood and be children, but they also should know that men can be creeps and it's not their fault and not acceptable, and what to do when it happens.
Agreed and we do teach our kids about this issues at home. We read books together, there's no question we won't answer. In my opinion we don't need Barbie to teach them that, that's all. It's like going to watch the Lego movie, we didn't even think of age rating, same happened here I believe...
I'm sorry you seem to be missing my greater point here: Our daughters will be sexualized by a man even while they are still children, not just teens, robbing them of their childhood innocence, which is far more damning then me or you taking them to see the Barbie move... Where most of the films message will fly right over there heads, but could create an opportunity to have a conversation about the fact above.
We do have those conversations at home. I don't need Barbie to be the messenger, I'd prefer she was a toy my kids play with, like in basically every other Barbie cartoon ever made before this movie. That's my opinion.
if you have a kid you're doing an absolute disservice to them with that attitude. like if u have a girl you're gonna be like nah that wasn't sexism dont worry ur pretty little head? everything is political. especially parenting.
e from what I personally think about the movie, I don’t want my kids to have to worry about politics or anything other than living their lives as kids, innocent and joyful and that we as pare
I was referring to kids, not teenagers. The movie is rated PG13 but in fact kids aged 5 or 6 and over are watching it...
And they should.
I saw my first R-Rated movie at 6, and it was fine.
even at that age.
it was rated pg13 and you're complaining? what the hell?
Do you think that under 13s aren't going to watch the movie?
uh yeah it's up to the parent to know if their kid is mature enough. There's nothing in that movie that could scar a kid like an R rated movie could, what more do you want? do you want them to literally start making parents bring birth certificates to movies to prove their kid isn't under 13???
No, what I meant is that nobody went to see the Barbie movie expecting to find a movie heavily politicised, that's it. Have you ever watched any other Barbie content before this movie? I certainly have done so with my daughter. If I'm going to see a John Wick movie, I know what to expect and so would you. Did you expect a Barbie movie to be what it was? I never said the movie was wrong or the message was wrong, that was never the point of my comments and every one seems to miss that.
Did you expect a Barbie movie to be what it was?
Yeah pretty much. Knew it was about feminism weeks before it even came out lol
fair enough.
Barbie is inherently political. The mere existence of Barbie in previous generations inspired similar movements to the “anti-woke” far right reaction that we’re experiencing today.
Hehehe, we're still talking about Mattel's Barbie doll, right? Because that toy's history is not as clear cut as you seem to think. =)
I don’t think you really have an understanding of what politics even means as a word. Yes, I’m referring to the toy. Yes, it is inherently political. You’re giving a bad name to my home state with your strange obsession with sanitized, non-political movies, which by the way, literally don’t now nor never have existed.
To me what's funny is your obsession for being right and to make me sound like an alt-right twat because I don't agree with you 100%. Get over it. Also, Colorado is a Spanish word in case you didn't know and I'm not from the US of the A. If you Googled the profile name without the NZ at the end, you'd know it has nothing to do with your home state. Also, supporters of my home town's football team are called colorados, so yeah, I'm latin american and Spanish/Portuguese words have a lot more use than those you thought of. Surprise! =)
Edit: I don’t want to argue anymore, so I’m just gonna stop. Peace out homie, hope you have a good day.
Thanks mate, I appreciate it. Hope you have a fine day as well. =)
What do you think PG means in PG-13? Perfectly Good?
Parental Guidance - 13 and over.
PG-13 – Parents Strongly Cautioned. Some material may be inappropriate for children under 13. Parents are urged to be cautious. Some material may be inappropriate for pre-teenagers.
It's not a restriction by age it's a warning about content, but it's left to the parents to decide if it's appropriate.
Nice, thank you.
A Trojan horse with neon lights announcing the hidden soldiers and surrounded by anti-Greek protesters.
Did you watch the trailers? Was there political cues in them?
Can you give an example of a piece of media devoid of politics?
Recent ones? Probably not and that's the issue I guess.
No, any at all. I don’t care how recent.
Have you seen the movie? And to blame the movie for kids watching it is absolutely ridiculous. Put the blame where it should be, with the parents.
Also, newsflash about kids and teens: They don't give a fuck about politics and aren't going to give a shit about what is getting the rights panties all bunched up. They want to watch a movie and laugh, and if you could get over yourself, you'd have a good laugh too.
Quick personal question, do you make your kids go to church?
I'm not religious but their mother is Jewish and so they go to the synagogue. Why is that?
You're concerned with political messages in a movie (mostly about women in power) and then force religion on your children. You do see the irony right?
I have to recognise that I'm in a odd situation here and so you're right about that. What I'll say is that marriage and parenting can be complex things and, although I'm an atheist but my partner isn't, we did talk about this aspect before committing to having kids. Personally I do my part to pass on what I believe to be the good aspects of life onto them and, although they are taught Judaism, I also teach them critical thinking, questioning everything that doesn't seem right or fair and so, in that sense, I'm no hypocrite.
I didn't realize what sub this was, and for that, I apologize. I respect your decisions with your teaching to your children and as an atheist myself, my question/concern would be if your children are taugh Judaism and you're teaching them to question everything, that (depending on the age I guess) could be very confusing to children.
As confusing as being brought up as a Catholic boy and being taught the same way by my parents and learning to be aware enough to not fall for the church rabbit hole. I know of at least two other boys that attended youth catechism same time as me that weren't so lucky and we only found out about the abuses years later. Today one can't question the current narrative without ridicule, even if you're questioning the method and not the merit...