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/c/café daily chat thread for 21 July 2023

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  • Btw, I finally decided to commit to learning Japenese since my friend wants to take N4 JLPT. I'm not sure whether I want to take the exam yet but I shouldn't rot for too long so I decided to study together.

    I stopped studying Japanese after I started working and thereafter I relied on informal learning but it wasn't moving things fast enough.

    Don't worry the bot is still otw o7 i just have a fear of manually testing my own code

    • Do you learn to read and write too? Or is focused on conversation?

      • Learning N4 level Japanese in general haha. I can read and understand a lot because I know more kanji than N5 level and I've been listening to a lot of videos in Japanese and watching anime. But I'm certainly still at the beginner level.

        I'm better at writing than speaking because it gives me time to think and look up words.

    • Good luck! I'm still learning after decades 😭

      • I've been learning for a long time too lol. I knew the very simple stuff since high school, but I never really learnt much until the past few years.

        It's actually pretty hard to learn without an accountability partner. Back when another friend of mine was studying for N4, I was studying too(N5), but I stopped halfway.

        Informal learning is also a great way if you're not preparing for JLPT. I can somewhat communicate if I'm not writing in formal Japanese, albeit with very limited prose.

        I should revisit akiyama ryohei sensei's videos on Japanese grammar.

        • It's true, you definitely need some kind of partner, I'm mostly stuck at N4 level but it's still annoying that spoken/vernacular Japanese is different enough that my comprehension is worse than French, and I only learned that much later, and written Japanese is generally a challenge because I didn't grow up with Chinese literacy skills lololol. All these years and I still have the real world level of a toddler imo haih

          • Yeah, written and spoken Japanese are quite different especially if it's among friends. XD I think I'm somewhere around the end of A2 in marugoto. I stopped at A2-4 which is actually halfway of N4, but I've forgotten lots of terms that I normally don't use and informal language doesn't help me with grammar exercises haha

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