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Lemmy.world down, probably following the upgrade. A reminder to move to smaller instances for a better experience

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  • I think Lemmy project creators work 9 to 5, for 4 years, and want to collect money. They do not use Lemmy. That's my point. They prefer Matrix. That's my point. They don't use Lemmy or care that it crashes all the time, they keep adding new features and the server crashing they consider acceptable.

    They even brag and boast on Github that lemmy is "high performance", and that it has "full delete" when these are not factually true and it is low-performance code and does not delete, it crashes on delete. Is it their self-deception or the audience they are deceiving, or both?

    • Again, what's your point? Lemmy belongs to them, they can do whatever they want with it. Don't like it, fork it. What's your goal?

      • What’s your goal?

        a world where peace, love, and compassion are favored by people and people voluntarily support goodness.

        they can do whatever they want with it. Don’t like it, fork it.

        It's become clear that what bothers you so much, what you are trying to do is drive off conversation. You care about the machines delivering your content. I actually care that people have self-awareness in the audience of the media they use. Not have blind faith that "fork it" actually is all that matters, and ignore teachers like Marshall McLuhan or Neil Postman who think it is important consumers of media are able to see how their own brain works instead of thinking "fork it" is all that matters, code.

        I think audiences could use a website like Wikipedia to do news, instead they favor websites like Reddiit,, Twitter, Lemmy where the main focus is to sort by NEW and get FRESH "breaking news" without accuracy. A rumor mill of rushed information that is often inaccurate or distorted for the purposes of selling adverting/marketing/product placement. I don't think the cost or "fork it" technology of Wikipedia style sites is the problem, I think the issue is audiences have become addicted to and seek out poor-quality information so they can argue about it. A Wikipedia system with edit history and citations would put an end to too many debates and arguments that people seem to seek on rapid "refresh" social media.

        I think humanity has gone from the information age to the disinformation age, and I think it is self-destruction, a major war or other self-destruction brewing.

        • If you have the answer, and have had it for over a month, create the PR for it. Why is that an insult to you?

          • If you have the answer, and have had it for over a month

            Why can't you say the same thing about the Lemmy developers? They are the ones who installed the mistake. now suddenly others have to fix their mistakes for them? It's really odd how you deflect from their responsibility.

        • a world where peace, love, and compassion are favored by people and people voluntarily support goodness.

          If you were, you wouldn't be trying to incite conflict by accusing everyone of being pro-China or pro-CCP, or going off on a rant on America's social media companies.

          It’s become clear that what bothers you so much, what you are trying to do is drive off conversation

          Well, I'm nice, I don't want to hurt your brain further by engaging in pointless conversation with you.

          You care about the machines delivering your content. I actually care that people have self-awareness in the audience of the media they use. Not have blind faith that “fork it” actually is all that matters, and ignore teachers like Marshall McLuhan or Neil Postman who think it is important consumers of media are able to see how their own brain works instead of thinking “fork it” is all that matters, code.

          How the flying spaghetti meatball monster fuck is this relevant to your rant over how you were getting sidelined on GitHub?

          I think audiences could use a website like Wikipedia to do news, instead they favor websites like Reddiit, Twitter, Lemmy where the main focus is to sort by NEW and get FRESH “breaking news” without accuracy.

          Okay, get off Lemmy then, why are you helping the Lemmy developers to the point of hurting your brain? You are nothing but full of contradictory statements. Nothing is keeping you here, if you don't want to be here, leave. It is that simple.

          • by accusing everyone

            "everyone', yha. You really think Lemmy is "everyone", or you lie and deceive that at least.

            I think people are pro-authority in their religion to books about dead people; It doesn't even have to be a living China government. Even the machines or an application code can be what you are loyal to. But they like the power, attracted to even the server crashes, spectacle.

            Well, I’m nice, I don’t want to hurt your brain further by engaging in pointless conversation with you.

            You commanded that I "fork Lemmy", that I code, that hurs my brian too. But you lack comassion and enjoy mocking weakness.

          • if you don’t want to be here, leave. It is that simple.

            It's funny how you are projecting. You do not want ME here, you keep telling me to leave. If I wanted to leave, i would have left But you seem very confused. Simple flippant dismissal seems to be your approach to complexity.

          • How the flying spaghetti meatball monster fuck is this relevant to your rant over how you were getting sidelined on GitHub?

            Do you even know who Neil Postman is, is that why you think nothing is relevant to how Lemmy is run? That would explain why you think it isn't relevant, because you never heard of Neil Postman. He did die decades back, so it wouldn't surprise me. It must be easier for you to jsut give flippant replies "how the flying fukc" instead of actually learning or reading a book from Neil Postman.

            "Fork it", "wtf", you like simplistic answers to difficult problems. Clearly you would not spend hundreds of hours testing fLemmy and watching the developers before posting something like I did this past few days. It's really sad to see your total faith and blind faith in action.

            I can see why you might have never read something from Neil Postman and responded as if it was off-topic to social media applications and their cultures.

            • Neil Postman

              No, why should I know who he is? How is he relevant to how Lemmy is run? How are my replies relevant to whatever Neil Postman wrote? Can you elaborate?

              “Fork it”, “wtf”, you like simplistic answers to difficult problems. Clearly you would not spend hundreds of hours testing fLemmy and watching the developers before posting something like I did this past few days. It’s really sad to see your total faith and blind faith in action.

              Well, your efforts clearly did not achieve your desired results, so forking the project, and starting your own Lemmy-alternative seems like the logical next step no?

              I can see why you might have never read something from Neil Postman and responded as if it was off-topic to social media applications and their cultures.

              Again, why do you keep bringing up American authors?

              • No, why should I know who he is? How is he relevant to how Lemmy is run?

                On the Internet, you can search. Instead, you go all "WTF" ranting.

                so forking the project, and starting your own Lemmy-alternative seems like the logical next step no?

                No, it isn't logical at all. People have set up Lemmy instances to 'fork" Reddit, and nobody comes. Why set up one more social media site nobody will use because audiences actually seek out what is popular. You seem to think code is all that matters, that quality actually attracts audiences. I suggest teachers like Neil Postman, they really spell this all out. The audience has to develop self-awareness of their compulsive media behaviors. Huxley was far more right than Orwell.

                • On the Internet, you can search. Instead, you go all “WTF” ranting.

                  You're the one that brought it up, you can't even be bothered to explain why?

                  No, it isn’t logical at all. People have set up Lemmy instances to 'fork" Reddit, and nobody comes. Why set up one more social media site nobody will use because audiences actually seek out what is popular. You seem to think code is all that matters, that quality actually attracts audiences. I suggest teachers like Neil Postman, they really spell this all out. The audience has to develop self-awareness of their compulsive media behaviors. Huxley was far more right than Orwell.

                  If your fork maintains the ActivityPub protocol, what's the issue? Again you keep bringing up more authors without explaining your reasons for doing so. Do you lack the capability to think for yourself, so you have to idolize authors that have long since passed?

                  • Your entire response seems like "fork it", without anything in advance of that.

                    1. Study the project leaders of lemmy, which I have done for hundreds of hours now. Analyze and learn, not JUMP TO "fork it".

                    2. Criticize with critical thinking what they are doing. And contribute. Which I have also done. They clearly need to stop letting their anxeity of PostgreSQL be central to the project. There are tutorials on YouTube for example that can be shared. Or Lemmy communities.

                    It's odd, do you go around telling everyone who criticizes Elon Musk to "fork it" about Twitter instead of actual;y sharing discussion about the problems. You seem to show cult-like loyalty to Lemmy and intend to run-off factual criticism. I've seen people behave that way towards Elon Musk too.

              • Again, why do you keep bringing up American authors?

                For one, I'm in the USA. And you must think Marshall McLuhan is from the USA? He is not.

                Marshall McLuhan identified the USA as the world leader in media long ago, and I think his analysis was correct. I don't think it has changed that much in 2023, USA still leads a lot of media types.

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