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You have a highly idealistic perspective on China. This isn't to say that things are lerfect in Europe or North America - they most definitely aren't. But it is to say that two things can be true at the same time, i.e., there are growing issues in the West and China has a highly oppressive regime.
There is a natural temptation to whitewash and exxagerate the good in other times and places, especially ones that are directly juxtaposed to the one you are inhabiting and are critical toward.
However, we must resist these temptations lest we doom ourselves to repeat the same mistake over and over.
It's just if you say a single thing positive about China that you get 20 replies about tank man or reeducation camps. No one cares to have a conversation about the thing you said about China they just spew state department talking points.
It's like if I said something about the US being pretty good with gay rights (for now at least) and then people started saying: Chelsea Manning, Julian Assange, MOVE bombing, George Floyd, GITMO, etc.
But you are the only reasonable reply here. I don't disagree with much of what you said. I just think the backlash to saying anything positive about China while the US is literally going full 1939 is just completely disconnected. More so than any China idealizing would ever be.
There are good things about china , there are bad things about china ... people focus on one or the other to suit(idk how to spell) their ideological needs.
PRC did improve the life of average ham chinese by leaps and bounds starting from 1990s onwards , but it does supress minorities , arrest for going against the party line , supress unions and strikes , but also invests in green energy , does massive projects to better the life of the average citisen , has rly invested into a lot of public things like rail , city pollution etc.
So can we agree that everything is a shade of gray and if someone wants to move to china out of their volition let them , but that person also needs to be aware how life there really is.
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If you were saying anything good about China I might agree with you, but you are not saying anything good about China. What you are complaining about in the US is a lot worse in China.
I love China, say anything that's positive about China and I'll agree with you.
China will not black bag people for supporting Palestine. Palestinian Liberation is as the forefront of the fight against fascism that is unfolding. Their future is our future. China is not suppressing the speech of people that speak out against this genocide. That's why I would say China is "better" right now. Because they are better on the most important issue today. Whether that is by chance or has alternative incentives that does not matter. The US is absolutely worse than China on the free speech that matters right now.
You're just plain wrong about that. The Chinese government hates any kind of social unrest and do not tolerate anything close to the protests happening in the US. The pro-palestine movement in China is suppressed harder in China than in the US.
Notice how that's not the same as black bagging someone? I swear I'm taking crazy pills. Are you paying attention in the US?
China's suppression certainly includes black bagging people, no idea where you got that from. Are you paying attention to China?
Oh ok I didn't know we were just making shit up without evidence. Please give me some radio free Asia links to prove you're right.
Now you're just trolling, I've already given you evidence about how the Chinese suppression apparatus works. People are being abducted for just being Muslim.
If they are not suppressing free speech, you show me some Chinese pro-palestine protests. Or go to China and see how long you last.
Saying state department talking points is apparently evidence now. Didn't know that.