Ahead of Chair Vote, Progressives Say DNC 'Failing Disastrously' to Learn From Loss to Trump
Ahead of Chair Vote, Progressives Say DNC 'Failing Disastrously' to Learn From Loss to Trump
"Voters—and all Americans—deserve better than two corporate-controlled parties," asserted the leader of Our Revolution.
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Then I would conclude that you are not interested in winning elections.
And therefore you shouldn't give advice to people who do want to win elections.
Hey man, I want our Empire to crumble, not prolong it's life.
While crumbling, I want to limit damage as best as possible.
The Dems are the ones who care about winning elections, and holding power. The only way to do that is to listen to the working class.
Trump lied about his intent to fix the problems, but he did, minimally, agree they existed.
I don't believe leftists actually know "the only way to win elections and hold power", considering they have accomplished neither.
Probably because neither is our goal? I mean, leftists want no state, no classes, and no money.
Democrats definitely don't want a stateless society. So they definitely should not listen to leftists.
In which case, I cannot argue with. Which means the Democrats most certainly do not support the interests of the working class, and just want power over others. Which means, none of us should be voting for them, or the GOP.
Plenty of people in the working class don't want a stateless society, either.
Plenty of people in the working class want a fascist dictator too... That's why its our job to work on raising class consciousness still.
And yes, the majoritarianism argument is to be had, as well.
So by "interests of the working class", you don't mean "listen to the working class". You mean "tell the working class what their interests are".
Classic leftist. And you accuse Democrats of wanting power over others.
So by “interests of the working class”, you don’t mean “listen to the working class”. You mean “tell the working class what their interests are”.
No, I mean "listen to, and address them"... ie, the economy is in the shitter. The working class is telling you its in the shitter. So, agree that's what they are facing, and then doing something about it, that actually solves the problem.
So, no, I do not mean "telling them what their interests are", we already know what the interests of the working class is: Economic security, housing security, food security, and access to health care and education.
A lot of working class folks think the causes of those issues are: Brown people, women working, women voting, not being christian... etc etc. All of those are easily debunked as the cause, so the job is to educate them by showing them the root cause of those issues: The current ruling class of oligarchs, not their fellow workers.