Yeah, true. I talk about what 99% of people know as the economy, bnp and all that crap.
If you want to talk about something else, please do, but you shouldn't use "economy" for that IMO, and trying to change what virtually everyone thinks "economy" stands for is just muddying the waters.
If you had said, they are unhappier, there is more poverty etc. I would have said, yes you are perfectly right.
I talk about what 99% of people know as the economy, bnp and all that crap.
Well 99% of people have been gaslighted into believing a distortion so severe that it's essentially a lie.
If you want to talk about something else, please do, but you shouldn't use "economy" for that IMO, and trying to change what virtually everyone thinks "economy" stands for is just muddying the waters.
I couldn't disagree more! To do what you're asking of me would amount to accepting the lie and reinforcing it. The majority going along with a false narrative makes it MORE important to be clear about what's ACTUALLY going on despite the establishment narrative, not less!
that wasn't what was discussed.
Wrong again. An economy is "The [entire] system or range of economic activity in a country, region, or community.", not just the parts that the establishment has tricked the larger population into focusing on in order to present a false impression that what's good for their owner donors is good for the country.
99% is YOUR grossly exaggerated figure. More than 1% of the world knows enough to see through the establishment media and politicians' lie.
But yes, framing the small section of the economy that overwhelmingly affects the rich most as "the economy" IS wrong no matter how many people have been gaslighted into believing that it's accurate.
It's the equivalent of basing the statistics of all car sales on how many limousines and Lamborghinis are sold.
First of all, I downvote misinformation and logical fallacies such as the appeals to authority and appeals to popularity (not to mention calling me and everyone else who disagree with you angry anti-US bigots 🙄) that your comments are littered with. That's not being childish, that's having standards.
Second, my arguments never "fell flat", you just either didn't understand or pretended not to understand.
Third, I never moved any goal posts. My argument has been that it's misleading to the point of disinformation to characterize the aspects of the economy that disproportionately affect rich people as representing the economy as a whole, no matter how many authority figures perpetuate that falsehood and no matter how many people believe it, from the start.
TL;DR: You've been wrong from the start, you continue to be wrong, and no amount of projection is going to change that.
I'm not ignorant about the ways the establishment distorts and cherry picks economic data to suit their own interests, I'm refusing to accept and participate in the gaslighting.
That you STILL don't get it says a lot about you, none of it good.
I know all that too, I'm just using the words for what they stand for. "Economy" isn't something inherently good, and I don't like it when peopke try to change the meaning of it. IMO things like PPP is probably way better to measure happiness (but the world still burns), and so on. I'm all for stopping the crazyness aroung infinite growth, and to distribute wealth better. But if we're going to talk about it, especially on the internet, it's too easy to not understand eachother if words lose their meaning.