The Good Place

Not my project. Just a thing that happens to be small and elegant and maximally "correct", in its particular design direction. Community is small, creator is level-headed. Somehow, it does feel like exactly the language a Janet's firmware would be written in. It brings me joy that such a thing exists.

In the end I don't understand why the only change they made in the Good Place is adding a death door.

Why not let the truly epic gamers go into a Prestige door that reincarnates them as another human (or optionally animal) (possibly with some customization options for where they spawn and how they look), but you get skill points to use on whatever you want, and also you get to keep all your Good Points.

There'll be leaderboards and the elite MLG gamers will compete in tournaments to get the most Good Points possible in a set time, or like 1 million points% speedruns. Imagine how pog that would be. No one would ever want to leave, and they're doing good for the world (like actual angels coming down from heaven).

Oh and also add a Campaign mode door designed by Architects where they can do different levels with different challenges, all related to being good, all increasing their skillset of making people happy. And they can find rare skills/talents and body customization options that they keep when they prestige.

Tell me your honest opinions. I'm a genius, right? I should honestly be the next Leader of The Good Place

TL;DR make The Good Place a video game so people stay there longer because they'll be addicted to getting good scores and getting to the top of the leaderboard (imagine how hard Tahani would go)

``` = Eleanor (yes that's my real name)

== Overview

• Born 1997
• Female
• Has had romantic partners, but never for long, and never was close with them
• Has friends and family, but cannot talk to them or rely on them for help (reciprocal)

== Strengths/Virtues

• Always helps out with anything at all when she knows how (see Weaknesses/Flaws)
• Highly intelligent re. mathematics, physics
• Generally speaking, can provide emotional support without making a situation worse
• Clarity of thought: in most situations knows why she thinks and feels what she does

== Weaknesses/Flaws

• Has no coherent sense of self
• Rarely knows what the right thing to do is
• Rarely knows what emotion she's feeling as she's feeling it
• Incapable of acting when she has responsibility
• Over-relies on others for emotional support
• Never listens to criticism: either ignores it or ceases to function entirely
• Never listens to praise: shuts down until it stops

== Beliefs

• Her existence is unjustified: she is incapable of earning the space she takes up
• She should not be trusted with any responsibility of any kind
• People do good for no reason, but need a reason to do something they believe is bad
• (strong) Souls are not real: human consciousness is nothing more or less than an emergent feature of electrical connections, which does not persist beyond the function of the brain

== Values

• Transparency: the truth of a situation should always be obvious to those in it
• Understanding (strong): knowing the underlying principle of a thing is always better than not
• Empathy/Flexibility (hypocritical): the expectations on and rules applied to each person must depend on their individual circumstances and (in)capabilities

== Ethical Framework

• Deontological: does not consider her actions individually, but as if everyone did them
• Considers situations with different particulars to warrant different rules ** (defense) Does not consider intention as a particular, only information and action
• (defense) Everyone being miserable because they never look after themselves is considered an unacceptable outcome
• (defense) Everyone being miserable because they stick to rigid rules all the time is considered an unacceptable outcome

== Desires

• (impossible: psychological) A social environment where she is accepted as she is without a mask, and she is not worried everyone will turn on her
• A stable, independent existence, that is not dependent on any personal relationship
• Cessation of mind

== Fears

• Making people's lives/experience worse
• Driving people away
• (phobia, intense) Spiders

== Anxieties

• Everyone who says they like her is only pretending ** (sometimes) They weren't at first, but now they're sick of her
• She's a net negative to everyone she knows ** (therefore) The best thing she can do for them is leave them alone
• She does not deserve to live ** (dilemma, personal experience) Dying also inflicts pain on others ** (deflection) She was and remains a freak accident
• Young children, babies, pregnancy etc. ** Believes she would be unable to cope (correct), yet forces herself to (try and fail to) empathise ** Cannot fit herself into a picture in which people are under such stress and responsibility ** Feels guilt over causing said stress herself, then failing to make up for it ```

I got my first tattoo - inspired by The Good Place! I love it so much.

3rd (4th?) time is a charm - after hitting the wall ⅓ into Season 2 every time, I finally watched the entire series through over the last week or so.

I was so sad to say goodbye to each character and watch things end. But in a world of Netflix cancelations and whatnot, it really felt like the show did what it needed to do. In four brief seasons. I've stuck through Supernatural, Lucifer, Riverdale- lots of shows that survived ebs and flows but prob should have peaced out after the first divet. The Good Place truly wrapped up nicely - I don't know what more I could have asked other than to drag it out because it's hard to say goodbye.

This is a spoiler for the end of Series 4.

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Janet(s) -- Good, Bad and Neutral -- are essentially just sentient robots (not a robot) that serve the occupants of the Good and Bad Place and neutral areas.

However Janet (the one we spend most time with) and the other Janets we see clearly have free will, and self-determination. Bad Janet defies The Judge, and the rest of The Janets do as well.

So is the fact they are forced to spend eternity serving the occupants of The Good Place and The Bad Place without any chance of their lives ending a bad thing? "Our" Janet is maybe the most advanced being that ever lived -- she even falls in love with Jason -- and yet she is required to act as a slave/sentient servant to humans in The Good Place. She e

Does this seem odd to anyone else?

This is quite a large spoiler for Series 4, so it will be tagged.

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Did Shaun kill Simone?

It seems oddly coincidental that she died just in time to take part in the experiment. Suspiciously so.

Does anyone else think The Bad Place had a hand in her death, or is just me?

. . . and I got an autograph on Eleanor Shellstrop’s file! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

I recently did my first rewatch. I basically binged. Couldn't get enough. It truly is A Good Place to spend my time.

Everything is fine now that this community is here!